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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Post subject: P-40 Italian Heavy Tank
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We should make a custom card for this unit. We can use FoW to help us, and that is why I bring it up. This might actually give italy a fighting chance. SO I say lets start woking on a custom card. I don't know the specs or anything about the tank but we can always do research!
Here is a possiblity:
Unit - P40 Italian Medium Tank
Year - 1942
Cost - 20
Speed - 3
Armor - 4/4
AI - 8/7/6
AT - 13/10/9
Limited Numbers - no more than 5 P40 tanks can be fielded in an army per 200 points.
It would be a relatively good tank. We might give it prone to breakdown or flammable.
I would certainly field 5 of them in my italian army.
If we can get the card made we can then use the FoW mini. _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:49 am |
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| Where can I find more data about this tank? |
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:30 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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All data I found was on the FoW website:
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=144&art_id=1309
it has armor specs, gun specs, speed specs, basically everything we should need to make a card. _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:35 am |
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Here's mine :
year : 1943
cost : 22
speed : 4
defense : 5/4
AI : 7/7/6
AT : 13/11/9
Excellent suspension _________________ A cœur vaillant, rien d'impossible |
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:53 pm |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Hm, seems a little fast for a "heavy tank". I think armor is good but cost is to high. Just 20 points. Excellent Suspension is eh.
Its basically a sherman with worse AI.
I think I'd still take my version. It'd be the best italian tank available. _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:50 am |
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| I had never heard of this tank until now. I noticed that the turret is riveted, that would be a weakness. |
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:50 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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It could be ust the painting. If it actually was riveted how about an SA like this:
If this unit is attacked and exactly 3 sixes are rolled against it this units gets a destroyed counter. _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:26 am |
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Speed 4 is because it could reach 40 km/h.
If I gave it similar stats with the sherman it's because it had similar technical datas.
Can I add that Italians hadn't the same definition for "heavy tanks" than us :
Italian Light = tankette, Italian Medium = light tank, and Italian heavy = medium tank
It is also admited that it had excellent suspensions. _________________ A cœur vaillant, rien d'impossible |
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:41 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Okay, well I see what you're saying. I gave it speed 3 because it said 25 MPH. _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:40 pm |
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Holding the line...

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I'd list it as a German unit. It mainly and probably only fought with the German military. _________________
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Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:40 am |
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Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:52 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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| Field Marshal PF wrote: | | I'd list it as a German unit. It mainly and probably only fought with the German military. |
Well being of italian creation, even if it didnt serve with them, I say we give it to italy. That way italy has a non craptastic tank that doesnt go boom when you shoot at it! _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:17 am |
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Post subject: Comando Supremo
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Gentlemen,
Comando Supremo has a little more info on the P40.
http://www.comandosupremo.com/CarroP40.html
It would appear that the P40 may not have ever saw battle pre-armistice. I wonder however if any were used in the hands of the Fasciti afterward? |
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Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:49 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Comando Supremo
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| benthetec wrote: | Gentlemen,
Comando Supremo has a little more info on the P40.
http://www.comandosupremo.com/CarroP40.html
It would appear that the P40 may not have ever saw battle pre-armistice. I wonder however if any were used in the hands of the Fasciti afterward? |
The Type-3 Chi Nu did not see actual combat. So I don't think we should worry about that too much about P40. |
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Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:48 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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So whats the deal with this thing? _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:57 am |
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The Panzer Collector

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I say give it atleast something negative. I mean, its Italian (not known for good quality tanks), riveted, and late war.
There's just something about that combo.... _________________
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Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:43 pm |
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Due to all of thier production and delivery problems you could give it an SA like:
Uncertain Arrival-
Roll a die. These tanks enter on the turn number represented on thie die. In a 7 turn game, it would arrive sometime... _________________ Custom Painted Minis: http://riversidegaming.myfastforum.org/forum52.php
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Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:04 pm |
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| Snippersly wrote: | Due to all of thier production and delivery problems you could give it an SA like:
Uncertain Arrival-
Roll a die. These tanks enter on the turn number represented on thie die. In a 7 turn game, it would arrive sometime... | Hee hee, that would be hilarious! Of course, the production and delivery problems really wouldn't have much effect on when the vehicle would show up during a 20minute skirmish (or however long 7 turns is supposed to represent in real time). Still, too funny!  |
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:48 am |
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"Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Haha hey it's a possibility. You know when you're running 10 minutes late for a doctors appointment, it'd be like that, _________________ "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak, Courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." - Churchill
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Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:13 am |
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