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"Local" Submerged Shot
2
RaySpruance
432
Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:45 pm
NeuralDream
"Air Mission" vs "Air Placement"
1
Donitz
325
Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:32 pm
swarbs
1 / X / 1
2
JuggernautJ
76
Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:09 am
Asbestos
2 Questions - Spot & Attack and Tone SA
7
Snippersly
355
Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:01 am
George Krashos
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Author
Views
Last Post
Attack questions
7
Lt_V
192
Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:13 pm
Lt_V
Aborting fighters
1
IJN Fuso
478
Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:19 pm
swarbs
Ability Stacking
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Ector
506
Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:06 am
UNC_Samurai
Aborted figters?
10
afilter
486
Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:54 pm
EvilKobra
Aircraft placement
5
theDoc
383
Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:38 am
Okie
A question about the land airbase
3
locksrule
208
Sat Aug 22, 2009 4:45 am
jfkziegler
Armor 1 crippled unit
1
Sgt Malakai
140
Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:37 pm
Europa1942
A smoky question.
7
lotharlutjens
367
Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:35 pm
swarbs
Aircraft stacking
10
Satchmo
282
Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:03 am
GreenArcher85
About Lay Smoke Screen again
7
cherryden
393
Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:10 pm
swarbs
ASW Threat Negative Sub Modifers
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40
protevangelium
739
Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:10 pm
Gross Admiral Raeder
Aquila
6
kommandant
356
Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:22 pm
RTBS
Attack with two (or more) ships
10
tomcat153
217
Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:38 pm
jfkziegler
ASW Threat rule clarification
1
IJN Fuso
323
Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:27 pm
NeuralDream
Assigning Air Missions to a Land Air Base.
6
Sarge77
196
Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:22 am
Okie
Aircraft placement
6
swarbs
392
Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:13 pm
Demotox
Air force bonus ability clarification
7
136Beef
336
Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:03 am
Diamondback
Air Mission, Defense, Attack
3
Snippersly
353
Fri May 15, 2009 6:37 pm
swarbs
Aircraft Carrier "SA's"
2
carrion
68
Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:35 am
carrion
Alternative payloads
4
LordYmer
417
Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:01 pm
wilt57
Armor hits
2
I fail at making cards
85
Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:46 am
The_lucky_Y
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Author
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Bristling with Guns and Antiair Specialist SAs
18
NuclearLunchbox
496
Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:06 am
cwfgamecast
Beaufighter
3
Snippersly
232
Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:51 am
Snippersly
Barracudas cannot use the ASW bonus of the jeep carrier ?
6
chicklewis
347
Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:10 am
Yossarian78
Bombers vs. PT Boats
13
BattleshipOverkill
458
Sat May 02, 2009 9:58 am
chesty
Busted carrier's planes
5
Grenada
226
Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:55 am
swarbs
Baltimore and Torpedo Defense
1
BattleshipOverkill
202
Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:19 pm
Aquarius
B-25 Strafing
14
RTBS
553
Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:19 am
drittal
Barracuda Mk II
4
LordYmer
354
Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:47 pm
Vinius
Bringing Tone and Chikuma to battle
4
RaySpruance
448
Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:37 pm
jfkziegler
Beaufighter Confusion
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26
ferris1971
1041
Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:40 am
swarbs
B 25 and Expert Bomber
3
Galland
488
Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:17 am
Conjurer
B-25H Mitchell's gunnery question
8
Fellblade
360
Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:45 pm
Hawker Hurricane
Bolzano: Flank speed
3
Okie
509
Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:37 am
Okie
Topics
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Author
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Close Escort SA in large games
1
Brass
354
Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:02 pm
EvilKobra
cleveland
8
N3TDH
389
Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:51 pm
NuclearLunchbox
Casabianca Submerged shot Query
2
Nachtjadger
263
Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:36 pm
Nachtjadger
Close Escort
10
Gross Admiral Raeder
473
Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:05 am
NeuralDream
carrier SA
9
packertim
479
Sun May 18, 2008 4:32 pm
SJG Gamer
Cap.ing objectives....??
1
Vortex
323
Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:05 pm
swarbs
Concelment Roll's
9
Okie
509
Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:29 pm
Jut
casabianca
12
swarbs
400
Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 pm
Aquarius
crippled SA's
4
swarbs
420
Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:49 pm
The_lucky_Y
Claiming objectives
2
IJN Fuso
300
Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:28 am
EvilKobra
Coastlines and PT Boats
4
Oddfellow
573
Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:01 pm
NeuralDream
Crippelt ship rule
7
LordYmer
378
Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:29 am
Okie
Crippled and movement
3
Lowecore
117
Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:43 am
Tincancaptain
Convoy Errata
5
weyoon
241
Fri May 08, 2009 12:15 am
SJG Gamer
Concerns Over New Advanded Rules Book
1
defender390
191
Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:12 am
jfkziegler
Crippled at night question
2
IJN Fuso
187
Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:52 am
swarbs
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Author
Views
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Determination ruling
1
DaJudge
197
Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:47 pm
NeuralDream
Damage SA Clarification
2
smeagol
209
Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:07 pm
smeagol
Defensive Armament
12
Europa1942
367
Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:21 pm
swarbs
double functions
1
packertim
324
Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:19 am
NeuralDream
Draw the CAP
11
Mad Ghost/0331
508
Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:29 am
Duck Crusader
Do I have to Accept Initiative?
5
RTBS
506
Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:31 pm
Aquarius
Damage clarification please?
6
Sgt WAKA
222
Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:21 pm
Sgt WAKA
Expert Bomber SA
3
GreenArcher85
107
Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:13 am
GreenArcher85
Empty Victory?
11
defender390
258
Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:15 am
Aquarius
Escort
14
cherryden
514
Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:46 pm
Delta Echo
Expert Bomber/Dogfighter etc
8
JackDanielsIMOW
441
Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:15 pm
JackDanielsIMOW
Excellent Spotting
4
JuggernautJ
104
Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:11 pm
Captain Morevo
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Views
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Fighter to Fighter combat
12
Bondboy
762
Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:39 pm
jfkziegler
Fighter Cover
7
Europa1942
306
Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:57 pm
swarbs
Fighter Director and Escort
6
The Tirpitz
235
Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:50 am
Fellblade
Fighter attack/defence
7
LordYmer
464
Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:32 pm
packertim
Few WaS q's
8
Lowecore
117
Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:01 am
swarbs
Finish him off + Dmg.
2
Stormhawk4107
102
Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:22 am
Stormhawk4107
Flagships and Flotilla Leaders
3
Marshal Ney
335
Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:37 pm
Vinius
French Fleet
10
Marshal Ney
628
Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:46 am
Heavygear
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German Auxilary Ship
9
Marshal Ney
542
Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:50 pm
f6f5hellcat
GZ and Stuka
7
jdavias
316
Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:23 pm
jdavias
Graf Spee
10
Okie
541
Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:35 pm
SJG Gamer
Halifax, only Sixes are HITS or only Sixes are SUCCESSES ?
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chicklewis
946
Sat May 09, 2009 5:46 am
Diamondback
Half sectors ?
2
Johansson
264
Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:40 pm
Aquarius
Haruna - Evade Bombs
11
Vinius
591
Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:31 pm
Nachtjadger
HMS Fencer,I-26 and Archerfish´s SA
3
The_lucky_Y
354
Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:27 pm
Brass
Hellcat errata
4
locksrule
195
Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:10 pm
Fellblade
HMS Hood SA question...
7
tomcat153
131
Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:50 pm
Asbestos
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Author
Views
Last Post
Initiative Stacking
10
Delta Echo
334
Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:36 am
Europa1942
Infiltrator
3
Snippersly
72
Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:47 pm
afilter
Initiative and Aircraft placement.
16
BattleshipOverkill
478
Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:02 pm
EvilKobra
I HAVE A DOUBT ABOUT PBY CATALINA !!
5
Artiles
988
Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:00 am
NeuralDream
Island Cover
10
Marshal Ney
376
Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:13 pm
Marshal Ney
Jammed Mount (not the -6 question)
4
Fellblade
193
Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:13 am
hansfranz
jammed mount
2
Europa1942
151
Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:42 pm
Europa1942
Kondor Missile Attack
5
Marshal Ney
427
Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:51 pm
Satchmo
Kondor Spotting
17
Marshal Ney
663
Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:39 pm
Delta Echo
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Loiter
2
ElectricCatND
137
Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:48 pm
ElectricCatND
loiter and land base
6
Sun-Tzu
414
Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:14 am
Diamondback
Lay Smoke Screen
15
GreenArcher85
924
Wed May 28, 2008 1:28 pm
Vinius
Long Range Gunnery- just to clarify...
1
DaJudge
308
Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:53 pm
NeuralDream
Lend/Lease
5
ElectricCatND
230
Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:34 pm
Diamondback
land based air
3
packertim
330
Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:13 pm
packertim
Line of Sight Examples
3
herky80
10
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:13 pm
swarbs
Land Airbase - can you bomb it?
5
Saxon
298
Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:05 pm
swarbs
Land airbase limit progression.
3
Buho
152
Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:21 pm
jfkziegler
Limited ASW threat
4
Europa1942
118
Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:58 pm
Fellblade
Lay Smoke Screen
17
wilt57
679
Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:28 pm
cwfgamecast
Topics
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Author
Views
Last Post
MINES!!!!!GAAAAA!!!!
1
Moose1320
52
Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:53 pm
swarbs
Max bombs
2
Europa1942
194
Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:49 pm
Europa1942
Maximum number of ships?
4
USS Yorktown (CV-5)
405
Wed May 14, 2008 7:27 am
EvilKobra
multiple sub shots
11
packertim
452
Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:33 am
Aquarius
Night Play questions...
4
The Alchemist
207
Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:36 pm
swarbs
New Smoke Screen replacing old? *spoileresque*
12
doganpc
257
Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:05 am
afilter
Nominating attacks
2
LordYmer
451
Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:30 pm
swarbs
New Player - Gunnery attack Question
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31
Madmak
1458
Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:47 pm
afilter
Noob question on fighters
7
Holofernes
323
Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:04 am
Aquarius
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Views
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Objective question
8
DaJudge
419
Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:11 pm
Heavygear
Objective's
1
Okie
246
Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:37 am
swarbs
Official Clarification update -Torps vs. Sub phase?
4
afilter
256
Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:56 pm
NjCo
Sticky:
Officially clarified SA's
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21
swarbs
1873
Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:12 am
swarbs
Press / Determined Attack vs. ASW
5
Snippersly
60
Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:08 pm
swarbs
PT Boats vs Stacking
6
Sgt Malakai
234
Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:18 pm
ElectricCatND
PBY
5
Sharpe
118
Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:53 am
Sharpe
Patrol Bomber
1
Indy Sparky
122
Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:33 am
wilt57
press the attack and dettermined attack
1
Europa1942
119
Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:57 pm
swarbs
Probably a dumb question...
8
SpitValve17
230
Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:11 am
The Tirpitz
PTs in islands
4
Aquarius
360
Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:56 pm
NeuralDream
Planes and Carriers
4
LordYmer
681
Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:03 pm
Jesse_James
Pinpointer SA
2
anthemius
234
Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:51 am
anthemius
Primary, Secondary, Tertiary Gunnery Attacks
4
Yossarian78
445
Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:20 pm
afilter
Topics
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Author
Views
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quick ?
6
Europa1942
181
Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:04 pm
NeuralDream
Questions concerning RB's Darkness rules.
3
lotharlutjens
178
Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:09 pm
lotharlutjens
Question about updated rules
8
USS Virginia BB 13
814
Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:29 pm
Mad Ghost/0331
Quick Question on Illustrious Sneak Attack
11
Hap Hapablap
427
Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:19 am
RaySpruance
Run Silent
1
Greyh Seer
166
Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:51 pm
jfkziegler
Rules question.
8
Kondors_Over_Dakota
200
Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:11 pm
swarbs
Re2001 question *spoilers*
2
Europa1942
247
Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:21 pm
UNC_Samurai
Ram
2
Trpaslik
288
Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:47 pm
Trpaslik
Rolling for mines
7
afilter
100
Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:51 pm
swarbs
Ranged 1 AA & air attacks at night.
5
Tincancaptain
47
Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:24 am
Tincancaptain
rules clarification on air cover
9
packertim
509
Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:24 am
Okie
Range 1 AA
2
ferris1971
288
Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:11 am
ferris1971
Rules update, U-boats, and the ASW threat
9
weasel
455
Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:39 pm
swarbs
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Views
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Spotting
1
ElectricCatND
134
Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:25 pm
jfkziegler
SBD Dauntless
6
Ferg
720
Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:07 pm
swarbs
Surprise Raid
2
wilt57
251
Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:54 pm
Stormhawk4107
Submarine Attack Phase
3
Fabikaze
372
Sat May 03, 2008 2:21 pm
Fabikaze
SH Early Deployment SA Rules Lawyering
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29
cwfgamecast
457
Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:38 pm
Kleintje
Subs with 1 hull point.
2
Simon
395
Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:17 pm
Simon
subs and concealment
5
tj
146
Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:40 pm
swarbs
Shooting out of smoke?
4
Asbestos
32
Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:22 pm
Asbestos
Subs as surface fleet?
3
Skyknight187
118
Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:36 am
Tincancaptain
Subs and objectives.
5
Stormhawk4107
92
Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:57 pm
herky80
Subs and Objective Claiming
9
Lord Gitster
437
Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:38 pm
Sink the Bismark
Soryu Surpise Raid
6
protevangelium
113
Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:53 pm
swarbs
smoke effect on air
2
packertim
297
Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:55 am
swarbs
Setup with too many units to fit in the deployment zone
1
fredmiracle
166
Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:46 pm
hansfranz
Sparvieor and finish him off + torpedo swarm ?
2
Europa1942
163
Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:35 am
defender390
Scouting ability
3
Okie
355
Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:49 pm
Sink the Bismark
Moved:
sent vs delivered
1
packertim
5
Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:41 am
NeuralDream
Ships per sector
14
Vinius
757
Fri May 23, 2008 8:07 pm
Vinius
Smoke Screens VS Aircraft
1
hansfranz
198
Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:17 pm
Duck Crusader
Secondary and Tertiery Gunnery Attacks
7
Sgt Malakai
359
Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:30 am
Stormhawk4107
sub hunter SA?
2
timoth216
201
Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:34 am
timoth216
Subs, Harassment and Modifiers
4
Marshal Ney
227
Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:48 pm
swarbs
Smoke, Fog & Squals vs. Improved Radar
2
BattleshipOverkill
176
Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:17 pm
BattleshipOverkill
Sub placement?
6
Okie
263
Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:51 pm
Okie
SM.79 Sparviero SA Stacking???
4
NuclearLunchbox
371
Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:52 pm
doganpc
S-boats and subs denying objectives...
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Roon
405
Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:12 am
weedsrock2
Smoke Screens vs. Initiative
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43
Snippersly
1021
Fri May 08, 2009 12:53 am
SJG Gamer
Smoke Screen and Chase Salvoes
3
Snippersly
162
Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:50 am
Snippersly
Stacking initiative SAs?
8
afilter
305
Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:18 pm
swarbs
Silly Question about Patrol Bombers
7
Lobukia
407
Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:12 am
The_lucky_Y
Submarines denying objectives.
7
lotharlutjens
647
Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:31 am
Gross Admiral Raeder
Sunken Carrier Aircraft / Other Carrier Questions
9
Marshal Ney
516
Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:11 am
swarbs
Smoke this
8
JuggernautJ
198
Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:49 pm
swarbs
Skip bombing
2
magister
371
Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:43 am
EvilKobra
straffing
2
Europa1942
209
Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:40 pm
jfkziegler
Shadowing SA question...
2
Sgt Malakai
141
Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:13 pm
Sgt Malakai
Special Abilities from a bunch of Rookies
5
136Beef
411
Sat May 23, 2009 1:24 am
Aquarius
shadowing
13
Europa1942
378
Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:01 pm
swarbs
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Author
Views
Last Post
Torpedo rolls
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24
Okie
845
Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:46 am
jim.agee
Task Force new rules???
2
Lepanto
306
Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:50 pm
swarbs
Tone's SA
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27
Duck Crusader
1239
Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:55 pm
EvilKobra
Torpedo Run
1
JuggernautJ
93
Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:39 pm
swarbs
torps during surface attack
2
wickett,jedi rock thrower
418
Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:16 pm
wickett,jedi rock thrower
Torpedoes and Smoke
3
Greyh Seer
184
Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:49 pm
UNC_Samurai
T27's Opening Salvo 1 SA
4
Jameson
215
Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:18 pm
Jameson
Ugolino Vivaldi and its Ram....
9
LongShot
268
Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:46 pm
jfkziegler
Ugolino Vivaldi's Ram
8
Yossarian78
405
Sat May 02, 2009 8:15 am
wilt57
USS EnterpriseSurvivor ablillity
1
LordYmer
392
Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:01 pm
NeuralDream
Updated Rules.
2
Buho
222
Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:24 pm
swarbs
USS PRINCETON
6
Lepanto
572
Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:00 pm
Lepanto
unit totals in engagements
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24
packertim
722
Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:57 pm
Aquarius
Unit Removal Question
4
Redcoat
120
Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:31 am
Stormhawk4107
Topics
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Views
Last Post
Sticky:
War at Sea Rules + Official Clarifications
1
NeuralDream
1913
Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:58 pm
NeuralDream
What's the point of Objectives?
7
rtalb079
511
Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:59 pm
Eric Marino
WaS Clarifications Document
1
defender390
286
Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:59 am
defender390
Warspite Long Shot Question
5
IJN Fuso
435
Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:52 pm
cwfgamecast
Sticky:
WAS FAQ - Clarification Starts Here
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22
swarbs
1797
Wed May 13, 2009 1:31 am
jfkziegler
WAS end game
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29
swarbs
890
Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:51 pm
Blackeagle
When to declare expert fighter/bomber etc
8
LordYmer
454
Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:01 am
swarbs
When does the game end if you can't score enough points?
5
RTBS
256
Sun May 03, 2009 3:40 am
RTBS
What is concealment?
7
USS Virginia BB 13
641
Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:22 pm
Okie
Topics
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Author
Views
Last Post
Zuikaku Airfield Strike
6
f6f5hellcat
542
Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:39 pm
wilt57
Zeke's Surprise ability
2
jfkziegler
564
Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:36 pm
EvilKobra
Zeke surprise
6
Aquarius
422
Wed May 07, 2008 12:07 pm
Demotox
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