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Usual CL/DL practices between USN and IJN IIRC:
IJN:
DesDiv is larger formation:
->old CL or DL (Akizuki) as flag
->two DesRons, each with four ships of the same class (note: one squadron each combo was mixed Hatsuharu/Shiratsuyu, Asasho/Kagero and Kagero/Yugumo)
At least until attrition gutted the IJN destroyer force
USN Early War:
DesRon is larger formation:
->old CL (Omaha) or DL (Porter, Somers) as flag
->two DesDivs, each four ships of same class
USN Mid/Late War:
DesRon still larger formation:
->One heavy DesDiv, 5 ships of same class (DesDiv flag is Squadron Flag when both operate together)
->One light DesDiv, 4 ships of same class
Occasionally, a DesRon would rearrange itself into three sections of three for certain missions like night torpedo ambushes.
So, one Jintsu, Akizuki, Yahagi, or Phelps per eight destroyers is a historically-sound ratio. Fletchers, though, were always stood up as 9-DD/no-CL/DL units, and IIRC Sumner/Gearings were the same, possibly also the horde of Benson/Gleaves variants before them.
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| weedsrock2 wrote: | | WarHighlander wrote: | | Rangefinder wrote: | | When I'm playing an allied fleet as opposed to U.S. only, I'd far rather go with Arunta or Haida as opposed to Haida. Both have sub hunter, far better guns than Fletcher, a range 2 torpedo and similar AA and ASW stats. I'll take that over the 3 armor. Interesting that only one U.S. destroyer out of seven (the little DE Samuel Roberts) has sub hunter. |
Arunta and Haida are 1 point undercosted. |
Actually, R.B. blogged just before Set II was released that he thought Arunta and Haida main gunnery stats are one die too much. |
With all the negative SAs the Commonwealth is stuck with, I think they deserve a break or two. |
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| Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:03 am |
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| I remember him saying that he thought the Tribal's gunnery score should have been higher. I haven't been able to find his original post though. |
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| Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:54 am |
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| Rangefinder wrote: | | weedsrock2 wrote: | | WarHighlander wrote: | | Rangefinder wrote: | | When I'm playing an allied fleet as opposed to U.S. only, I'd far rather go with Arunta or Haida as opposed to Haida. Both have sub hunter, far better guns than Fletcher, a range 2 torpedo and similar AA and ASW stats. I'll take that over the 3 armor. Interesting that only one U.S. destroyer out of seven (the little DE Samuel Roberts) has sub hunter. |
Arunta and Haida are 1 point undercosted. |
Actually, R.B. blogged just before Set II was released that he thought Arunta and Haida main gunnery stats are one die too much. |
With all the negative SAs the Commonwealth is stuck with, I think they deserve a break or two. |
I 100% agree with that.
The UK has been burdened with too many needless SA's.
Gawd, you'd think with that many negative SA's the UK navy wouldve struggled to accomplish anything in WW2 and the Allies naval war was a 'one horse race'...
And using WaS as a reference point you'd think the Brits are shit at ship building, considering the their history as a global naval empire spanning a few hundred years and all...
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| Diamondback wrote: | Usual CL/DL practices between USN and IJN IIRC:
IJN:
DesDiv is larger formation:
->old CL or DL (Akizuki) as flag
->two DesRons, each with four ships of the same class (note: one squadron each combo was mixed Hatsuharu/Shiratsuyu, Asasho/Kagero and Kagero/Yugumo)
At least until attrition gutted the IJN destroyer force
USN Early War:
DesRon is larger formation:
->old CL (Omaha) or DL (Porter, Somers) as flag
->two DesDivs, each four ships of same class
USN Mid/Late War:
DesRon still larger formation:
->One heavy DesDiv, 5 ships of same class (DesDiv flag is Squadron Flag when both operate together)
->One light DesDiv, 4 ships of same class
Occasionally, a DesRon would rearrange itself into three sections of three for certain missions like night torpedo ambushes.
So, one Jintsu, Akizuki, Yahagi, or Phelps per eight destroyers is a historically-sound ratio. Fletchers, though, were always stood up as 9-DD/no-CL/DL units, and IIRC Sumner/Gearings were the same, possibly also the horde of Benson/Gleaves variants before them. |
Don't forget the Atlantas for the US. They were originally designed to be the "flotilla leaders" for destroyers as well. That's why they are equipped with 5" 38 cal guns and torpedoes, unlike other US lights. It was after that that the navy discovered the AA potential of the Atlantas.
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I love phelps! Mainly because my friend hates them so much he once used Yamato's MG agianst it.
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Establish Screen is a useful ability and there's nothing wrong with the ship itself.
Unfortunately initiative bonuses usually cost more than I think they are worth, particularly in such a fragile unit as a Destroyer. |
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