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| RAEVSKI wrote: | i can get plans from them at $30AUS for the 44 config.
i rang them today. |
Then somebody needs to tell RB that, and I need to tell my friend "thanks, but we've got it dealt with".
Thanks for doing the legwork for us!
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What about a model kit. Surely there's a cheap one out there, or perhaps this is wishful thinking.
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| Schlachtschiff Bismarck wrote: | | could also be a free french unit |
They already have good enough escorts, I think. Milan is the only destroyer I'll ever need for my French fleets, while a New Zealand escort would be much more likely to see play.
EDIT: Nevermind. No River class ships served for New Zealand. HMAS Diamantina is more likely.
The difference between destroyers and frigates has always confused me. If the definition is size (frigates are smaller than destroyers), then why was the River class frigate 1,370 tons and the G class DD's 1,335 tons and the H's 1,340 tons? And that's not even considering the small baltic destroyers. I suppose this is much like the battlecruiser terminology controversy. One man's frigate is another man's destroyer and another man's destroyer escort. |
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| Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:22 pm |
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The RCN still needs some love, so I'd like to see a Canadian River Class.
Given that HMAS Diamantina has been preserved as a museum ship, however, my money is on the frigate being Australian.
Then again, the mould for HMCS Haida (museum ship) doubled for HMAS Arunta (bottom of the ocean) ....
I'd be happy to see this one as both Australian and Canadian. |
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| Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:30 pm |
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| rtalb079 wrote: | | The RCN still needs some love, so I'd like to see a Canadian River Class. |
Canada needs the Royal Canadian Naval Air Service, HMCS Uganda and maybe another destroyer. It already has enough sub hunting ability. |
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| Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:56 pm |
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| Johnny_Thunders wrote: | | Schlachtschiff Bismarck wrote: | | could also be a free french unit |
They already have good enough escorts, I think. Milan is the only destroyer I'll ever need for my French fleets, while a New Zealand escort would be much more likely to see play.
EDIT: Nevermind. No River class ships served for New Zealand. HMAS Diamantina is more likely.
The difference between destroyers and frigates has always confused me. If the definition is size (frigates are smaller than destroyers), then why was the River class frigate 1,370 tons and the G class DD's 1,335 tons and the H's 1,340 tons? And that's not even considering the small baltic destroyers. I suppose this is much like the battlecruiser terminology controversy. One man's frigate is another man's destroyer and another man's destroyer escort. |
i think speed is the deciding factor.
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| Quote: | | The difference between destroyers and frigates has always confused me. If the definition is size (frigates are smaller than destroyers), then why was the River class frigate 1,370 tons and the G class DD's 1,335 tons and the H's 1,340 tons? And that's not even considering the small baltic destroyers. I suppose this is much like the battlecruiser terminology controversy. One man's frigate is another man's destroyer and another man's destroyer escort. |
The fundamental difference is that "frigates" and "destroyer escorts" were purpose built ASW platforms designed exclusively to operate as convoy escorts, while "destroyers" were multi-role warships designed to operate in a number of capacities.
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| Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:21 pm |
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| RAEVSKI wrote: |
i think speed is the deciding factor. |
| Planetary Eulogy wrote: |
The fundamental difference is that "frigates" and "destroyer escorts" were purpose built ASW platforms designed exclusively to operate as convoy escorts, while "destroyers" were multi-role warships designed to operate in a number of capacities. |
That makes much more sense. Thanks! |
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| Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:06 pm |
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Raevski and Admiral_Tee,
I posted your replies to the WotC site in R.B's blog.
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:05 am |
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| weedsrock2 wrote: | Raevski and Admiral_Tee,
I posted your replies to the WotC site in R.B's blog. |
including the $30 plans?
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:55 am |
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| RAEVSKI wrote: | | weedsrock2 wrote: | Raevski and Admiral_Tee,
I posted your replies to the WotC site in R.B's blog. |
including the $30 plans? |
Yes.
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:14 am |
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R.B. replied that he did not need us to go to that much trouble, but thanked us for the effort. They can figure it out from the photos if need be.
Sounds like WotC is too cheap to buy plans! 
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:49 am |
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| weedsrock2 wrote: | R.B. replied that he did not need us to go to that much trouble, but thanked us for the effort. They can figure it out from the photos if need be.
Sounds like WotC is too cheap to buy plans! |
i would have bought them  save your money RB...
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:18 am |
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So if anybody wants to relay this to RB, I asked the boys on NavWeaps if they knew of any line drawings of a River Class.
It is a nice line drawing.
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:38 am |
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That's definitely a nice line-drawing, can't ask for too much better. Nice work Drittal.
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Tiornu's book mentions British plans to rearm some Rivers for Pacific work. For the AA role, 2 twin 4" guns, and for shore bombardment, 6" guns. I assume it would be a pair of 6" guns fore and aft, replacing the standard 4" guns.
I am guessing the River-class frigate will be a 6 point unit. Armor and gunnery stats like the Sammy B. No torpedoes, maybe a lesser AA value, but with the SAs of the Sackville. |
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| Diamondback wrote: | | RAEVSKI wrote: | i can get plans from them at $30AUS for the 44 config.
i rang them today. |
Then somebody needs to tell RB that, and I need to tell my friend "thanks, but we've got it dealt with".
Thanks for doing the legwork for us! |
I think that is exactly what he is looking for! I have copied your post over to his blog.
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| Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:02 pm |
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This is the reply R.B. left on his blog today after we posted the illustration resource. Good job Foruminians! 
"Thanks, fellas! I saw the discussion over on Forumini and went over to have a look.
WotC_RichBaker "
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we are always willing to help.
i would have been extremely happy to have helped in getting set 5 done.
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