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Given that the HMS Repulse model is actually HMS Renown it can be assumed that the Renown will appear in a future set.
So what can we expect?
I would assume:
Main guns: 14/14/13/11 (as Repulse)
Secondaries: 6/6/5
AA: 8
[EDIT] Torpedoes 2/2/1
Armour 7 - Vital Armour 14. Hull points 5
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Extended range 4.
Expert battlecruiser: +1 main gun dice when shooting at an enemy battlecruiser.
Dive bomber killer: +1 dice when shooting at dive bombers.
Reasoning: Renown's secondaries were powerful - 20 x 4.5-inch with a broadside of 10. The 4.5 was regarded as superior to the 5.25-inch on King George and it is the gun the RN still uses today.
Renown also had a good war as a carrier escort, on one occasion shooting down seven out of 11 Stuka dive bombers.
Renown also had a famous running battle in gale force conditions with Scharnhorst AND Gneisenau and she landed several hits on one including knocking out the enemy's heavily armoured forward turret with a single 4.5-inch shell. The small shell hit the rangefinder optic and blew off the glass, storm water got into the turret's electrics and shorted out the entire A turret.
Renown's deck armour appears to be arranged better that Repulse's, hence the better vital armour figure.
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Interesting.
I had come up with similar secondaries (6/6/4) and AA.
For armor, I had 8 / 13 / 5, though I think I agree with you that 7 / 14 / 5 is more appropriate.
I did not realize the torpedo tubes were removed in refit?
I also had no sa's and slapped a 39 point cost (for +1 AA over repulse and + 1 armor and the juiced-up 2ndaries).
However, swapping the point from armor to vital and removing torpedoes probably drops the cost to more like 36 (sans sa's) |
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:38 pm |
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Unfortunately, I don't think 'Battlecruiser' is a unit 'type' in WAS. So, perhaps an anti-battleship SA is the closest you can get (at least without house-rules).
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:59 pm |
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Mayhaps this should be moved to "custom cards" section?
Or Chestys "reprint reference" topic?
it fits much better there, and it's why we have that sub forum as well. |
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:07 pm |
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Post subject: Re: HMS Renown?
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| 'Warspite' wrote: | Main guns: 14/14/13/11 (as Repulse)
Secondaries: 6/6/5
AA: 8
No torpedoes
Armour 7 - Vital Armour 14. Hull points 5
SA:
Extended range 4.
Expert battlecruiser: +1 main gun dice when shooting at an enemy battlecruiser.
Dive bomber killer: +1 dice when shooting at dive bombers. |
You could re-word Cruiser Hunter and Kamikaze Killer for your SA's...
Battleship Hunter - This unit rolls one extra attack die when making Main Gunnery attacks against Battleships.
Dive Bomber Killer - This unit rolls one extra attack die when making Antiair attacks against Dive Bombers.
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:27 pm |
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| swarbs wrote: | | Unfortunately, I don't think 'Battlecruiser' is a unit 'type' in WAS. So, perhaps an anti-battleship SA is the closest you can get (at least without house-rules). |
OK so we refine it to +1 shooting at Scharnhorst type or Kongo type 'cos that's what we are talking about.
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:58 pm |
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| Rengokuy wrote: | Mayhaps this should be moved to "custom cards" section?
Or Chestys "reprint reference" topic?
it fits much better there, and it's why we have that sub forum as well. |
I was not proposing a custom card so much as speculating on what the (eventual) official card would look like. Maybe RB looks in and maybe he takes hints, I don't know.
I remember bashing HMS Warspite on the official boards and, low and behold, the Warspite arrived in set II. Sometimes wishes are granted! smile
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| Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:01 pm |
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Hope we get something similar to your proposal. I was a little suprised we didn't get Renown before Repulse since, after all, Renown is the one that survived the war.
| 'Warspite' wrote: | | Rengokuy wrote: | Mayhaps this should be moved to "custom cards" section?
Or Chestys "reprint reference" topic?
it fits much better there, and it's why we have that sub forum as well. |
I was not proposing a custom card so much as speculating on what the (eventual) official card would look like. Maybe RB looks in and maybe he takes hints, I don't know.
I remember bashing HMS Warspite on the official boards and, low and behold, the Warspite arrived in set II. Sometimes wishes are granted! smile |
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| Sun Nov 01, 2009 4:03 am |
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Repulse first because they made the Prince of Wales in the Set.
(you can now assemble the force Z, and your opponent probably need more Bettys)
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| Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:20 am |
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HMS Renown had torpedoes at the start of WW2, the same mounts as HMS Repulse.
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| Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:05 am |
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| SJG Gamer wrote: | | HMS Renown had torpedoes at the start of WW2, the same mounts as HMS Repulse. |
You are correct. Conway's says removed April 1945. Another source had claimed otherwise. I will edit my entry.
I am surprised that they were left aboard given the wartime view that above water torpedoes had contributed to the loss of HMS Hood.
Thank you.
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