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Any of the Illustrated Design History by Norman Friedman are great on the WW I USN.  British Battleships by Oscar Parks has lots on the RN capitol ships.  Warship, an anual publication starting in 1989 and known as Warship International before that IIRC has articles on maritime history and ship design from 1850 or so forwards.
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another pretty general link - might even already be up, I'm not sure, but it is mostly a collection of other articles, plus its got orders of battle, fleet lists etc.
http://www.gwpda.org/naval/n0000000.htm#swt

Here's perhaps the most useful page off there for our (or my) purposes, diagrams of all Russian pre-dreadnoughts.

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/irnprds.htm
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This is an interesting site

http://home.att.net/~WellsBrothers/Battleships/FrenchBBtable.html
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I took the liberty of moving this to the library Swarbs, I hope you don't mind.

I backed up from that origional russian web-page and found some more stuff, including an issue with essentially all the Russian and Japanese vessels from the RJ war, almost all with top-downs, including torpedo boats and even a Russian auxilliery.

Here are the relevant links in Russian since linking through a translation program doesn't seem to work.

Japan info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ2/03.htm
pictures/illustrations:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ2/Pictures/index.htm

Russia is divided into the baltic and far eastern fleets, I think Eastern fleet is first, might have them mixed up.
Eastern fleet info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/03.htm
Baltic fleet info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/05.htm
color plates (pretty but no look-downs)
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/Pictures/index.htm

Here is the link where they came from, they're the first two issues pictured up at the top.  The second grouping is for all the nations of WWI, but these are also mixed in with the other issues in the first Russian link I found.  They have top-downs of all dreadnoughts and BC's, but very few look downs of other stuff.  (and WWII is at the bottom if you have any interest)

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/


And while I'm at it I might as well put up other stuff too.  I've been looking for top-downs that weren't battleships and here are two links I've found that have some other stuff.  
First Russian DD's, the top downs are marred with number labels, but we might not get a better image, so here goes:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/Escadra/Nevki/Draw/index.htm

Now Japanese DD's, also included here are everything through WWII.
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/Jap_DD/index.htm

The actual diagrams are here:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/Jap_DD/Draw/index.htm

I believe both nations ordered DD's from either the UK, Germany or both, so maybe some cross-use of pics isn't out of the question, though it will take some work to match up each diagram with exactly the class in questions.

That Japanese destroyer issue comes from the archive here:

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/

The magazines are arranged by nation, most are about specific classes, some of the promising ones were dissapointments, the one about German DD's for instance has only side views.

Ok, so now everyone has essentially the same diagram resources as me.
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Two more books:

Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting, John Cambell, The Lyons Press, 1998.

Campbells book on WW II naval guns would talk about a lot of WW I guns still in service in WW II.

Jutland, The German Perspective, V. E. Terrant, Brockhampton Press, 1995.

Rapid Fire which I have somewhere is, IIRC, a survey and discussion of guns larger the HMG's but smaller than 60mm or so.  The relavance is some of them were used as anti-TD and DD guns early in this period.
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Power at Sea; The Age of Navalism, 1890-1918 by Lisle A. Rose
Great book 1st in the series of three books.  Great info about the political climates, backgrounds into how and why different battles took place IE: Jutland, Scapa Flow, Etc...  Mind sets of the different Governments and their fleet admirals their attitudes etc.  
I've found my self wondering what would have happened if the crews of the British ships actually had mutinied at scapa flow?  What would have happened if the High seas fleet actively engaged the Grand Fleet immediately again in the north sea right after Jutland?  After reading his book I started to ask these kinds of questions.
Then different scenario ideas began to form.
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This is another site to check out:

http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/

There are computer models of various warships, ship plans of some ships, videos of how dreadnaught technology worked, a good source/links page, etc.
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Warship, an anual publication starting in 1989 and known as Warship International before that IIRC has articles on maritime history and ship design from 1850 or so forwards.

Warship and Warship International are two different publications, and I think there's another one in Britain called Warships International or something similarly annoying.
Warship dates back to around 1976 and was originally a quarterly, though you can find issues bound as annuals under the titles Warship I - XII. Quarterly 49 was issued just before the journal fell apart, reforming soon after with Warship 1989. It's now fairly strong.
Warship International started back in 1964-ish as a monthly, then quickly switched to a quarterly as it is today. They are currently having troubles, and they need subscribers, so go out and subscribe!
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don't know if someone posted this before, but here's a links page from another site, some of the links are dead, some look interesting

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/links-navy.htm
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