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Totaler Krieg

 

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I'm not sure if this a question for the general discussion forum or here, but since I will be creating a custom card I figured I'd start the thread here.

I wanted to creat a new MG team for the US, specifically the M2 or Browning .50 Cal aka the "Ma Deuce".

I realize that A&A has the quad 50 that throws 9/8/6 inf and 3/3/3 armor
and this is where my dilemma begins.  These numbers aren't even as good as the M1919 US MG team - 9/8/7 and 3/3/3 respectively.

Then I have the issue of the .50 cal being better than the MG 42?  It seems that the favor goes to the 42, with the reasearch I gathered, but doesn't the 50 pack more of a punch?  I understand that the 42 was a wonderful piece of engineering, but as I am finding, it seems that A&A puts alot of weight behind the fact that the 42 had a much superior rate of fire.  The .50 cal muzzle velocity and range are better than the 42, from what I gather from wikipedia, so wouldn't that generate a longer range and better armor dice to an A&A card, but the quad 50 has worse dice than the A&A MG 42 card.

I also compared the M16 1/2 Track card to the Sd Kfz 7/1 card.  The 7/1  throws much better dice than the M16 or 1/2 tacked quad .50.
A&A does give the M16 "double shot", but the 20mm cannons used on the 7/1 had a significantly better rate of fire.  Is that why it has better dice? I believe the 7/1 hade smaller guns so why the better armor dice?  The 7/1 dice are 11/10/8 - 6/5/4.

Well I suppose my question is where do I go from here? Do I make a .50 cal MG team that surpasses the MG42 in range and armor dice or do I correct the other cards I have compared it to?

Hopefully someone better that I can set me straight as I am not a ballistics expert.


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Nice card Sharpe, and I love the text, I guess this means you agree with me that A&A dropped the ball on the quad 50?
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Pretty much.  ASL gives the Quad .50 a very high rating, 25% better than a single.
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Nice card Sharpe, and the flavor text cracks me up.
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Thanks
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The flavor text is just an Urban Legend right?  I've seen it before, but could find no evidence of the 50 being illegal to use against human targets.
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Asbestos wrote:
The flavor text is just an Urban Legend right?  I've seen it before, but could find no evidence of the 50 being illegal to use against human targets.


You're probably right about that.  I stumbled across that factoid but didn't check it out.  Evidently, it stems from the Army discouraging using the M2 against personnel as wasteful, but that might have been a Vietnam-era doctrine, not WW2.

It's hard to believe that sending explosive shells against personnel is more humane than large bullets.

I had heard that the Germans filed protests in WW1 against an Indian prince who brought a high-powered rifle to the trenches.  (Source:  Byron Farwell)
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