If the Rheinubung Bismarck is "deployed" to a sector that has been mined, is this classified as "Entering" thus all ships need to roll for damage, or does deploy not equal enter thus they are immune to an already mined sector?
Rheinubung Bismarck Secret Breakout:
This unit may begin the game undeployed, along with up to one of your Cruisers. Set the undeployed Ships aside. They are out of play. Deploy them together during turn 2 or 3 at the end of the Air Return phase in any sector on your side of the map.
Once per game, instead of making an attack in the Surface Attack phase, this unit can mine its sector. Whenever a ship enters the mined sector, roll a die. On a 1, the ship takes 1 point of damage. On a 2, 2 points. Torpedo defense works against this damage.
I can see arguments and intent for both sides.
The spoiler below is how we ruled it:
Deploy does not equal Enter, thus the Bismarck and VDT did not have to roll for mine damage.
I just wanted to make sure that we ruled it correctly by consensus.[/b]
This came up during a tournament at Origins and I was the one that had to make the call. At first I was inclined to say the mines were in effect, but after hearing both sides I came to two conclusions.
1) There is no correct answer. The wording of the two SAs gives no clue to intent in this case. Only RB could make that call. And we know he frequently didn't make what a lot of people thought was the "logical" clarification. Keep in mind that he strongly favored game play over historical accuracy.
2) The only "rules lawyer" difference I could find was the use of the word "enter" compared to "deploy." Since they are two different words I decided to rule that mines do not affect deployment.
As I said, there is no way to know the correct answer. I'll bet (based on other clarifications we used to get from RB) that he didn't even think about the interaction and would just have to make a call if asked. And no, I don't have a line to him anymore.
On longer reflection my own bias is I don't like mines playing a big part in the game. The map is too small and they could become ridiculous very quickly. RB also made it very clear he didn't think there should be a lot of terrain on the map. So my call is mines don't affect deployment. You guys can all call it the way you want since there is no definitive answer here. _________________
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This looks like a classic case of 'lets roll a die, odd = affected by the mines and even = not', unless both players are in agreement of course. _________________ "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today"
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