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Operation Tungsten was the British operation to perform a massive airstrike on the newly repaired Tirpitz as the lonely queen sat in her fjord before heading out for speed trials. Little did they know, the Germans had set a trap for them...

Order Of Battle:

Royal Navy Home Group -

HMS Duke of York (flagship of Admiral Bruce Fraser)
HMS Anson (flagship of Vice-Admiral Henry Moore)
HMS Victorious
827 Naval Air Squadron (12 Fairey Barracudas)
829 Naval Air Squadron (9 Barracudas)
1834 Naval Air Squadron (14 Vought F4U Corsairs)
1836 Naval Air Squadron (14 Corsairs)
HMS Belfast
HMS Marne
HMS Matchless
HMS Meteor
HMS Milne
HMS Ursa
HMS Undaunted

German Ambushing Fleet -
KMS Dresden (L-20a Battleship)
KMS Prinz Adalbert (P-class heavy cruiser)
KMS Prinz Heinrich (P-class heavy cruiser)
KMS Von der Tann (P-class heavy cruiser)  
KMS Frankfurt (M-class light cruisers)
KMS Bremen (M-class light cruisers)
KMS Hamburg (M-class light cruisers)
KMS Berlin (M-class light cruisers)
KMS Lübeck (M-class light cruisers)
KMS München (M-class light cruisers)
KMS Danzig  (M-class light cruisers)
SP1 (Spahkruiser)
SP2 (Spahkruiser)
Z35
Z36
Z37
Z38
Z51
Z52
Z53
Z54
Z55
Z56

In the wee early morning hours the Germans get the jump on the unready British fleet looking the wrong direction. Game starts under darkness rules.
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Surprise, even in darkness would be difficult given the excellent radar that the British battleships & cruisers had at this time.  
Also, there were radar-equipped  aircraft that would have been on patrol to prevent what happened to the CV HMS Glorious from happening again.
Surprise, in reality, would have been difficult in 1944.
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Surprise, even in darkness would be difficult given the excellent radar that the British battleships & cruisers had at this time.  
Also, there were radar-equipped  aircraft that would have been on patrol to prevent what happened to the CV HMS Glorious from happening again.
Surprise, in reality, would have been difficult in 1944.


Not as true as you might think. "Excellent" might be a bit of stretch as a superlative for British radar.

The Anson at that time had the Type 277 Air/Surface Search radar which had a range of around 25 miles...but wasn't known as a good performing unit.

The DoY had a Type 273 Surface Search radar with a much lesser range in the 10-20 mile range.

First point against the British being that they'd have been expecting air from the mainland, not surface attack from the sea, and unlike modern radar that is unidirectional, sets at that time had to be aimed (narrow beam radar). So they wouldn't have had a 360 degree awareness. The Anson having the longer range likely would have been tasked with watching for aircraft coming in from the coast. The Duke of York had a different Type of radar all together. Hers was excellent at close range for spotting submarines so likely it would have been sweeping in the range of 1 to 5 miles for periscopes. Again, due to technology limitations at the time, the range a ship was searching at had to be set via varying the frequency and power.

As for the aircraft, the Marlets available at the time would not have had radar, but they did have some Hellcats, which might have. Giving benefit of the doubt, let's say they were F6F-5N night fighters. Radar detection range for a Battleship sized object is around 35 miles...in a forward 15 degree cone. Now that cone could be widened to 120 degrees, but the range cuts down to only 5-6 miles.

So yes, there is a possibility of detection, but there is also an opportunity at the furthest range for there to be that moment of surprise, and luck. The odds of any of the shells hitting at that range are remote, but as Glorious proved...possible. And since this is all just me making stuff up...

SURPRISE! BOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!
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Wow,
You did some excellent research.  Sounds like a fun scenario.   Cool
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This is just part one. The British have a chance to fight a running retreat and link up with Group Two for reinforcement. But the Germans still haven't laid all their cards on the table yet either...
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This is great. Do we have cards for M class?

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