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The Kar98 was a bolt action rifle, the Garand could fire semi-automatic. Also it carried 8 rounds where the Kar98 had 5. Both had an effective range of about 500 meters (ok, Mauser has some advantage there), unless you used the sniper Mauser carabine 98 who tested best in the factory and had sights.
I'm no expert on firearms, but surely the volume of fire would have an effect on attack dice ?!
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That was my thinking
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| What's the range in metres again for 'medium' and 'long' range? 100m hexes still? If medium range is 200-400m, maybe the better of accuracy of the Mauser might warrant more dice than the Garand, but my guess is that any old soldier shooting at a target 500-800m away isn't going to get close to hitting it unless he's a sharpshooter. Why not give the Garand more dice at close range, the Mauser one more die than the Garand at medium range, and then equally shitty dice at long range (if any dice at all)? |
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| Sharpe wrote: | | change "you" to "player" in 2nd SA |
Why? "You" is the word used in WoTC AAM cards. Is it inaccurate?
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I try to avoid using 2nd person. It's not that confusing here, but I fear it might be later and I would like to be consistent. I have many hobgoblins in my foolish mind.
It's not a biggie if it stays the way it is.
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| Amandil wrote: | "Wehrmacht Infanterie" is way too generic, I think. It translates as "Armed Forces Infantry," more or less. The Wehrmacht includes the army, the air force, the navy and the SS! And there was a lot more infantry in the army (Heer), let alone the Wehrmacht, than Mauser riflemen.
Why not call it "Heer K98 Rifleman"? Heer is more accurate than Wehrmacht and only one syllable, and K98 is an accurate description of the rifle as well as not sounding like a "car" to English speakers. |
Wehrmacht doesnt translates to armed forces infantry. "Wehr" comes from "wehren", which means to defend. And "Macht" means force or power. So Wehrmacht means defending power or sth in that way. And Wehrmacht only was the army, the air force was the Luftwaffe, the navy the Kriegsmarine and the SS-Troops were NOT controlled and commanded by the Wehrmacht.
And "Gefechtsführung" is much better than "Entwicklung" for my taste. Sorry if i missed something else and this post is obsolete, but my german is a lot better than my english 
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| Westentaschenschlachti wrote: | | Wehrmacht doesnt translates to armed forces infantry. "Wehr" comes from "wehren", which means to defend. And "Macht" means force or power. So Wehrmacht means defending power or sth in that way. And Wehrmacht only was the army, the air force was the Luftwaffe, the navy the Kriegsmarine and the SS-Troops were NOT controlled and commanded by the Wehrmacht. |
Indeed, "wehr" means to protect and "macht" means "might," so "Defence Forces" translates the meaning a little better than "Armed Forces." (Far be it from me to get into a dispute with a German native speaker over the meaning of a German word!  )
Nevertheless, look at how generic the word is: why wouldn't "defence forces" include the 'air weapons' and the 'fighting navy' and the 'protective squadron'? To my knowledge, the German word for "army" (i.e., the land forces) is Heer. It was called this during the Nazi era (for example, see http://www.feldgrau.com/), and the contemporary Bundeswehr refers to the land branch of the military as "Das Heer." | Quote: | | The Wehrmacht Heer was from 1935 to 1945 the army section of the German Wehrmacht which also consisted of the navy and air force. During Second World War, a total of about 15 million soldiers served in the German Army, of which about 3 million perished. |
The DDR was an exception to this: | Quote: | The East German army was the "Kommando Landstreitkräfte," the Nationale Volksarmee were the military armed forces of the GDR.
And that is exactly the difference: "Heer" refers to armies, "Armee" (like "Streitkraft" and "Wehrmacht") refers to the armed forces of a country as a whole. |
Interestingly, the usage of the DDR seems to be the same in Austria: the "Österreichs Bundesheer" appears to refer to the entire Austrian armed forces, whereas "Kommando Landstreitkräfte (KdoLaSK)" refers specifically to the land forces.
So historically, it isn't accurate to refer to 'regular German riflemen from 1935-1945' as "Wehrmacht Riflemen," as if SS soldiers or luftwaffe infantrymen weren't: | Quote: | Wehrmacht (Ger.: Wehrmacht, defence power) refers to the German armed forces of WW II. In 1935 Hitler announced the existence of the air force and the reintroduction of conscription, both prohibited by the Treaty of Versailles. The Wehrmacht thereafter comprised the army (Heer), the navy (Kriegsmarine), and the air force (Luftwaffe). Each had its own headquarters, OKH (Oberkommando des Heeres) for the army, OKM (Oberkommando der Marine) for the navy, and OKL (Oberkommando der Luftwaffe) for the air force.
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Yes i agree, Wehrmacht Riflemen isnt really accurate, but i never claimed that. I just pointed out that "Heer" Rifleman sounds very very strange in german. You dont even say Heer to the german Bundeswehr in these years, you use Armee which means Army of course. The Austrian Bundesheer is special, you really call the Army "Heer" here, but only here.
Germany = Bundeswehr
Austria = Bundesheer
WWII Germany = Werhmacht... or Deutsche Armee (german army), but not really deutsches heer, sounds strange.
Better would be "German Army Rifleman" or "Deutscher Landser" which was a Nickname of the typical german soldier, but i guess the card is already finished isnt it?
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Currently used title is : Mauser Karabiner 98k Riflemen
No 'Heer' or 'Wehrmacht' included.
Is that ok with the Germany natives / near natives ?
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Ehm...its okay for me, but i tought the whole problem were different nations and all used the Mauser Kar...so you liked to have different names or sth.
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Am glad that's all taken care of.
And now for something (almost) completely different: | Quote: | Given these disadvantages the Wehrmacht's achievements are all the more astonishing. The army generated a combat performance which was consistently 20–30 per cent better than that of British and American units facing it. Martin van Creveld called it ‘a superb fighting organisation … [which] probably had no equal among twentieth-century armies’. Because of Hitler's strategic errors, from 1942 Germany fought an increasingly attritional struggle against powerful opponents, but even after the tide of war had turned against them German armed forces continued to astonish their opponents by dogged defence sprinkled with rapid counter-attacks. ...
Cultural factors like national character and the status enjoyed by the armed forces within society played their part in promoting a performance which, in victory and defeat, remains remarkable. There were also a number of specifically military factors. Until the training and replacement system broke down under the impact of defeats in east and west in mid-1944 German soldiers were not simply better trained than their opponents, but were delivered from the Replacement Army to the front line by way of ‘marching battalions’ which gave regiments a strong incentive to polish the training of their own replacements, who were often trained by the officers and NCOs who would lead them in battle. Officer and NCO training was well ahead of that in Allied armies: in Normandy it is no exaggeration to say that the average German senior NCO was better trained than the average Allied junior officer, while German officer training routinely incorporated periods of front-line service.
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(I found this yesterday when I was looking up the whole Wehrmacht Heer business.)
I like the current SA for the standard German rifleman (Gefechtsführung or whatever). The above info would make for a cool SA for an early-war German commander, wouldn't it? Even an NCO who would be less-expensive and just as effective (or more, perhaps), than the Allied commander units of the time period. I'm just throwing this out there for ideas. |
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