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RedBaron wrote:
dont be so tough on this set, I like more Early War stuff , then Late so it's a matter of taste.


Of course it's a matter of taste. The early war stuff just doesn't aline well with the pieces that I currently have and I don't have the cash to get everything. So I'll be picking up singles for this set for the most part and not cases or boosters. I'm sure there are plenty of others who are loving what they are seeing but they currently have a very different collection than I have.

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I agree the motohalf track or the 231 are not the best sellers, but you gotta expect a few reprints.


I don't have a problem with reprints. I have nothing against most of the reprints from the V2 sets. I also play the naval AAM and there are lots of useful reprints in those sets as well. I can't think of one I don't want. I just think it's really bad form to reprint bottom of the barrel stuff like the motorcycle half track. It's a piece that no one uses because of it's cost and purpose. The Kubelwagon is a much better value for less points. Reprinting this piece is like reprinting the subchaser from the naval 1st set.

The only reason it's there is because they needed a certain number of reprints to carry over to the new set but failed to plan ahead enough to realize they didn't have enough early war pieces in the previous sets to reach their quota. I'll bet this comes back to bite them too. There's already a good number of people on this forum that are not going to be buying cases or boosters and sticking to the singles market. It's pieces like this that cause that.
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PostFri Oct 16, 2009 7:54 pm
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King Tiger wrote:
Cpt. John Miller wrote:

Poland - 7TP Tank - 1939
Cost: 9
Speed: 3
Armor: 2/2
AP: 6/6/5
AV: 9/7/5

I like it, although making it a rare is another WOTC retarded choice

Quite the opposite. No one is defending WotC, in fact I am one that does not go along with them, but this system of rare/uncom/com is based on their marketing not our wishes.
Which pieces do you think would have fit an Early War set and which of those should have been Rares?
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@NjCO

I agree with you... but... I mean, I gotta accept that they tend to reprint stuff like Brixia Mortar or MotoHalftrack. It's their way... it's not good, but...

I do not believe I will purchase a case, but because of financial restrictions right now. I will try to trade for the pieces I want.

But still there are tons of stuff I would need from this Early War set. Lets wait and see the full list of items before deciding some more Laughing
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Can we get some more stats of the other units. Like the Polish Commander, the Ski Troops or the French Gun?
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Captain Morevo wrote:
I want some T-28s to fight along side my T-35s so badly, I could 'squee' like a girl watching twilight.

I'm convinced Early War is going to be a GOOD set... even with the repaints/reprints.


Get ready to squee, cause you will have massive 3 turret T-28's to play with.


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M2A0 wrote:
Get ready to see, cause you will have massive 3 turret T-28's to play with.


Thank you, I am looking forward to the next set. Glad to hear some more info!  Very Happy
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This is gonna be a good set.

No really, the overall unit selection seems to more than just make up for krad and kübel reprints and if the molds and paint jobs (my only quibble with NA) are good, I'd dare to say it'll be the best V2 set yet.

I'm quite happy how this has turned out so far, good job!
Now if there'd only be some more official support and some pics, that would make my day.
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T-28 Combat history

The T-28 was deployed during the Invasion of Poland and the Winter War against Finland. During the initial stages of the Winter War, the tank was used in direct fire missions against Finnish pillboxes. In the course of these operations it was found that the armour was inadequate and programs were initiated to upgrade it. Frontal plates were upgraded from 50 mm to 80 mm and side and rear plates to 40 mm thickness. With this up-armoured version the Red Army broke through the main Finnish defensive fortification, the vaunted Mannerheim Line.

According to Russian historian M. Kolomietz's new book T-28. Three-headed Stalin's Monster, over 200 T-28s were knocked out during the Winter War, but only 20 of them were in irrecoverable losses (including 2 captured by the Finnish Army). Due to proximity of the Kirov Plant, all other knocked-out tanks were repaired, some of them over five times. [1]
T-28 tanks, with horseshoe radio antennas

The Finns knew the T-28 as the Postivaunu ("mail wagon" or stagecoach), a name which alluded to Finnish troops' discovery of Red Army field mail sacks inside the first destroyed T-28. Another explanation is that the high profile of the tank resembled the old west stagecoaches of the United States. Finns captured two T-28s during the Winter War and five in Continuation War, totalling 7 vehicles.

The Soviets had 411 T-28 tanks when the Germans invaded in June 1941.[2] Most T-28s were lost during the first two months of the invasion, many of them abandoned after mechanical breakdown. Some T-28s took part in the 1941 winter defence of Leningrad and Moscow,[3] but after late 1941, they were rare in Red Army service; a few were operated by enemy forces.[4]

Today three T-28s remain, two in Finland and one in Moscow. One restored T-28 is on display in Finnish field camouflage in the Parola Tank Museum, Finland.


Now this is a good unit to have in ones collection
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goodpost   Thanks RB fo posting that as well. Very Happy
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You are welcome, just wanted to point out that T28 should be a good unit within a lot of scenarios, early period of the war of course.

I am curios what version of the T28 we will have. Anyway its a good choice imo.
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Now, you see, this is the stuff that makes it so much more cool to get these T-28, when you have some background story of the vehicle.

This should be a regular part of the, sadly, missing opening salvos...
And maye something to have in the AAM Newsletter?
Everybody loves to read about the units and see some pictures, right?

Thanks RedBaron for enlightening us:)
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once I did for my playgroup a newsletter but it was more of a "fun newsletter".

after each game I would do a card with some irony in it about the "enemy commanders".

here is one:


in this specific game, my friend Hagi thought of destroying me by playing an IS3... after I damaged the thing ... all his enthusiasm vanished Laughing
the SA's on the card tell you how he played this game Very Happy
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RedBaron wrote:
once I did for my playgroup a newsletter but it was more of a "fun newsletter".

after each game I would do a card with some irony in it about the "enemy commanders".

here is one:


in this specific game, my friend Hagi thought of destroying me by playing an IS3... after I damaged the thing ... all his enthusiasm vanished Laughing
the SA's on the card tell you how he played this game Very Happy


LMAO thats hilarious!
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What did you hit it with?
Tiger II??
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with a Disrupted Veteran Tiger... imagine that Very Happy

I have a nice card to that but I can't post it since it has also my picture on the card.

That was such a cool game Smile
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And what is wrong with your face, hehe??

Would like to see that card - and these cards could be cool to have in the Newsletter!
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nothing wrong, but I like the privacy... so I will put up one more card, because we are going off-topic.

this card is from a game limited to 1941, historical conditions, Germany vs USSR, no planes.

my friend Hagi always chooses the BT7 and always moves it with so much precaution that it becomes annoying.

I never get a shot in for that bugger, he always moves it back and forward until I lose my mind in anger Laughing and the damn thing is fast...



Oh yeah, another thing he does is to brag about poor old soviet tanks and the mighty german panzers... anything that a german panzer has and the soviet have not, it's an unfair advantage... Laughing
well this is a strategy, he tries to induce to me metal fatigue... and then I make mistakes... lots of times he succeeded I must agree Very Happy but not anymore.
Ok, sorry for the off topic.
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Love those Soviet flavor tanks...
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The units out of that half case look like a bunch of junk. Morris Recon car? They picked that turd as a reprint? OMG

Our group just decided to order 8 cases between 5 of us and now I'm thinking that's too much. Some of the infantry might be ok, that's the most I can get excited about. Belgian tank destroyers and other 9 or 10 point tanks just don't blow my skirt up.

It's always a matter of taste. One man's junk is another man's treasure. That's why so many people get divorced and remarried in this country.
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DaJudge wrote:
The units out of that half case look like a bunch of junk. Morris Recon car? They picked that turd as a reprint? OMG

Our group just decided to order 8 cases between 5 of us and now I'm thinking that's too much. Some of the infantry might be ok, that's the most I can get excited about. Belgian tank destroyers and other 9 or 10 point tanks just don't blow my skirt up.

It's always a matter of taste. One man's junk is another man's treasure. That's why so many people get divorced and remarried in this country.


Remember, this is Early War. None of the armor in this set will be competitive against later war stuff. I agree that the Morris and the Kettenkrad are disappointing, but this set is for scenario players. It will never appeal to power gamers. I am excited to get more early war French and Belgian stuff, but I prefer to play historical scenarios.

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