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Jameson wrote:
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I fail at making cards wrote:

Does this forum have the cards for the UK escort carriers that were manned by canadian crews?

You mean the US escort carriers that were loaned to the British and manned by Canadian crews?


Wow. Congratulations, you win the internet.


For what, excessive pedantry?  Wink
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SA: Canadian Crew: Submarines take a -1 die penalty when making Torpedo attacks on this unit.

SA: Canadian Crew: When this unit is destroyed, drink a cold beer.
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SA: Canadian Crew: Submarines take a -1 die penalty when making Torpedo attacks on this unit.

SA: Canadian Crew: When this unit is destroyed, drink a cold beer.

Or you can dream of making an iceberg carrier
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Lets not let these fall too far either.


You want an SA, how abouts the CV costs 0 points when in a pure canadian fleet. (since the British are paying for her)
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Lets not let these fall too far either.


You want an SA, how abouts the CV costs 0 points when in a pure canadian fleet. (since the British are paying for her)


Very impractical and unusable.

I was serious about the submarine SA. Or come up with something else 'usable.'

Maybe deduct one point from the cost of this unit when building a fleet that has at least one Canadian unit. But with this SA I would not put a double roundel on the card to avoid confusion.
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im good with some sort of cost reduction when used with more than one canadian unit.
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I don't think we should introduce nation-specific special abilities into Forumini Navies until RB introduces them into the game.  I think that's entering new design space that I'm not sure we should enter.
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I don't think we should introduce nation-specific special abilities into Forumini Navies until RB introduces them into the game.  I think that's entering new design space that I'm not sure we should enter.


Okay. So we need to come up with a reasonable 'Canada flavor' SA. Since the Canadians were very experienced convoy escorts what about giving it 'Expert ASW'? It is not original, but it applies and we seem to be stuck anyway.
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I think that would be a reasonable solution.
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Sounds good to me.
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I don't know what happened to the guy that started this thread, so here is the summary I have pieced together.

HMS Puncher (Ameer class escort carrier)
April, 1944 - Jan. 1946
speed:1
capacity:1
Mains: 2/2/2
AA: 5
Armor: 2/8/3

SA:Outstanding Air Support - Once per turn,if this unit is in the same sector as a friendly carrier,it gains one of that carrier's ''expert'' abilities.

SA: Expert ASW

1. So what would be the cost?

2. Does the wording of "Outstanding Air Support" look okay?

3. Does it get a dual RN/RCN roundel or not? I am okay with a dual roundel. Everything doesn't need a 'precedent.'
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O.O  Outstanding Air Support is insane.

What's the reason for giving it to any CV? (not just these)
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weedsrock2 wrote:
I don't know what happened to the guy that started this thread, so here is the summary I have pieced together.

HMS Puncher (Ameer class escort carrier)
April, 1944 - Jan. 1946
speed:1
capacity:1
Mains: 2/2/2
AA: 5
Armor: 2/8/3

SA:Outstanding Air Support - Once per turn,if this unit is in the same sector as a friendly carrier,it gains one of that carrier's ''expert'' abilities.

SA: Expert ASW

1. So what would be the cost?

2. Does the wording of "Outstanding Air Support" look okay?

3. Does it get a dual RN/RCN roundel or not? I am okay with a dual roundel. Everything doesn't need a 'precedent.'

1. 11 points
2. i am pretty convinced that the Sa will be rarely used.
i have no problems with it as the plane already onboard is probably a Torp bomber. To make the most of the SA's.
3. i am fine with a dual Roundel, it fixes hurting anyones sensiblities.
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You'll forgive me if I'm being brash about it.  But like many other cards that got stamped Fantasy, or planned or whatever, if you make this Canadian, it gets that stamp too.

In the strict history that this forum usually abides too, i find it amazing that so many people are ok with rewriting history to allow a ship to be part of a navy that it wasn't.

On a happier note. She had two 127mm gun,  Fencer had 120mm, so mayhaps a 3 for it's range 0 attack?
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i believe that they are totally different Ren.
u are Nit picking about dual roundels.
The ship sailed, with an Canadian crew. The Canadians have an affinity toward the ship. it is HMS in name.
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i believe that they are totally different Ren.
u are Nit picking about dual roundels.
The ship sailed, with an Canadian crew. The Canadians have an affinity toward the ship. it is HMS in name.


Don't worry, I will make sure the Royal Navy Roundel is overlapping in front of the Canada Roundel.  Rolling Eyes

I view this as a special case. I don't look at this as a 'precendent.' In game and history terms it really doesn't matter. The Commonwealth navies run with the RN anyway.
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2. i am pretty convinced that the Sa will be rarely used.
i have no problems with it as the plane already onboard is probably a Torp bomber. To make the most of the SA's.


Do keep in mind the SA can then be applied to any aircraft you have deployed on the map.
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HMS Puncher (Ameer class escort carrier)
Cost: 13
April, 1944 - Jan. 1946
speed:1
capacity:1
Mains: 3/3/2
AA: 5
Armor: 2/8/3

SA:Outstanding Air Support - Once per turn,if this unit is in the same sector as a friendly carrier,it gains one of that carrier's ''expert'' abilities.

SA: Expert ASW
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