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Did anyone notice how the type listing for aircraft in Flank Speed went from Aircraft to simply Air?

Could this mean something new (e.g. blimps) is on the horizon for Sets IV and beyond?
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More than likely it indicates an error.
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jfkziegler wrote:
More than likely it indicates an error.


That might be true, but it's kind of interesting. I don't have every FS unit, but looking at the cards for the Jill and the A6M5, they say "Air." On the other hand, the Helldiver says "Aircraft."
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Zepplins, blimbs, barrage balloons (whoops, wrong war) are considered airCRAFT. They just aren't air PLANES.

Could this perhaps be (if it is not the most likely and obvious explanation, an error) be an opening for Anti-Aircraft?
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JuggernautJ wrote:
Zepplins, blimbs, barrage balloons (whoops, wrong war) are considered airCRAFT. They just aren't air PLANES.

Could this perhaps be (if it is not the most likely and obvious explanation, an error) be an opening for Anti-Aircraft?


Are you thinking barrage balloons? They were around for WW II. But that would certainly be an interesting route for WaS to take. Now that we have LST-type craft, it isn't out of the question.
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Looking through the photos on this site of the FS units, it seems only the Japanese aircraft say "Air". Probably an error, as suggested above. But who knows...
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I know whatever I throw in here would probably be shot down or something but anyways....

People talking about the sister ship to the Graf Zepplin and it never leaving docks, hey neither did Arizona. I know she already had combat experience but WaW focuses on the WWII point of any ship. That and its not like we're actually trying to recreate every battle like they happened. This is OUR war we create.

Anyways a couple things I think would be interesting to see are the proposed US Montana class ships or UK Lion class ships. Both of them sport to be big sluggers, especially the Montana. The Lion sported an increased 9 in. belt, far more than the bismark class. The Montana was the only ship proposed that could have duked one on one with a Yamato class, carrying an additional 16" triple-turret and like sized armor belt as the Yamato. There are a couple other ships that they could use for germany before the run out of ideas.   In July and Sept. of 1939, two H-class battleship keels were laid. The H-class was pretty much a bigger Bismarck. 8 16"guns in twin turrets as well as 6 21" torpedo tubes.

If we are just sticking to ships that made it out of port, well i know this one is streching it, but the IJN Super-Carrier Shinano would be a welcome addition. it did make it out of the dock but was sunk there. Idk if that counts but it would be bad@$$
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I Like all your ideas for new ships, and agree that for game play purposes, the sister of GZ would most certainly be a welcome addition. But I think comparing it to the Arizona is a bit of a stretch. For starters, the Arizona was built...and had combat experience as you said yourself. Like I said, I agree with you, but I think you just opened the flood gates...
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whoops, sorry my bad, when i was putting the Peter Strasser  in the same context as the Arizona, I was fed information that the PS was sunk before it was put out to sea. THAT would have put them on the "same" field where which they both had WWII combat experience triying to prevent their own deaths. Sorry for the mistake there.
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Oh dude, don't even worry about it  Very Happy  I was just trying to make sure I got that in before the wolves close in! Everyone is more than entitled to their opinion =D
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The Shinano would be easy to justify. The fact that it was sunk on its first trip out of port was a bit of  bad luck.

Still, I'd much rather see the missing Perl Harbor/Midway IJN carriers first.
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What needs to be thrown in is Kaga. Give us another crown IJN fleet carrier that has armor stats similar to BC's
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Here is my proposal for set IV, I wonder how close I'll be......

Based on another 40 unit set

USN-

USS Wasp (rare)
USS Lexington (reprint of Sartoga) rare
USS West Virginia rare
USS Nashville (Boise reprint) uncommon
USS Pittsburgh (Baltimore reprint)rare
USS Darter (Barb reprint) common
Wickes or Clemson Class Destroyer-common
Minesweeper- common
Corsair fighter- common

Canada

RCN Ontario- Swiftsure class cruiser- rare

Australia

HMAS Vampire DD- common

UK

HMS Furious- rare
HMS Queen Elizabeth- reprint- rare
Dido Class cruiser- uncommon
Fiji class cruiser- reprint of Jamaica- uncommon
V & W Class destroyer- common
MA 22 type Patrol Boat- common
Minesweeper common

France-

Bearn- rare
Lorraine Class BB- rare
Torpedo bomber- common
Fighter- common

Russia-

Voroshilov cruiser- reprint- rare
L16 submarine- common
Patrol bomber- uncommon

Germany-

Gneisenau- reprint- rare
Blucher- reprint-rare
Minelayer or minesweeper- common
U-99- common

Italy-

Trieste cruiser- reprint-rare
Sirena Class submarine- common
Minelayer- common

Japan-

Kaga CV- rare
Zuiho CVL- uncommon- reprint
Fuso BB- rare- reprint
Takao Class cruiser- rare
Tenryu Class Light cruiser- uncommon
Minelayer- common
Explosive Boat- common or a submarine common
Oscar Fighter- common

Name of the set?

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Interesting.

Supposedly, the name will be 'Condition Zebra'. Maybe 'Enemy Below' for when the set containing a Type XXI Flak comes out? muwahaha
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wargamer55 wrote:
The Shinano would be easy to justify. The fact that it was sunk on its first trip out of port was a bit of  bad luck.

Still, I'd much rather see the missing Perl Harbor/Midway IJN carriers first.


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DaJudge wrote:
Here is my proposal for set IV, I wonder how close I'll be......

Based on another 40 unit set

USN-

USS Wasp (rare)
USS Lexington (reprint of Sartoga) rare
USS West Virginia rare
USS Nashville (Boise reprint) uncommon
USS Pittsburgh (Baltimore reprint)rare
USS Darter (Barb reprint) common
Wickes or Clemson Class Destroyer-common
Minesweeper- common
Corsair fighter- common

Canada

RCN Ontario- Swiftsure class cruiser- rare

Australia

HMAS Vampire DD- common

UK

HMS Furious- rare
HMS Queen Elizabeth- reprint- rare
Dido Class cruiser- uncommon
Fiji class cruiser- reprint of Jamaica- uncommon
V & W Class destroyer- common
MA 22 type Patrol Boat- common
Minesweeper common

France-

Bearn- rare
Lorraine Class BB- rare
Torpedo bomber- common
Fighter- common

Russia-

Voroshilov cruiser- reprint- rare
L16 submarine- common
Patrol bomber- uncommon

Germany-

Gneisenau- reprint- rare
Blucher- reprint-rare
Minelayer or minesweeper- common
U-99- common

Italy-

Trieste cruiser- reprint-rare
Sirena Class submarine- common
Minelayer- common

Japan-

Kaga CV- rare
Zuiho CVL- uncommon- reprint
Fuso BB- rare- reprint
Takao Class cruiser- rare
Tenryu Class Light cruiser- uncommon
Minelayer- common
Explosive Boat- common or a submarine common
Oscar Fighter- common

Name of the set?

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You need a fletcher class, theres no way they wouldnt have one.
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DaJudge wrote:
Here is my proposal for set IV, I wonder how close I'll be......

Based on another 40 unit set

USN-

USS Wasp (rare)
USS Lexington (reprint of Sartoga) rare
USS West Virginia rare
USS Nashville (Boise reprint) uncommon
USS Pittsburgh (Baltimore reprint)rare
USS Darter (Barb reprint) common
Wickes or Clemson Class Destroyer-common
Minesweeper- common
Corsair fighter- common

Canada

RCN Ontario- Swiftsure class cruiser- rare

Australia

HMAS Vampire DD- common

UK

HMS Furious- rare
HMS Queen Elizabeth- reprint- rare
Dido Class cruiser- uncommon
Fiji class cruiser- reprint of Jamaica- uncommon
V & W Class destroyer- common
MA 22 type Patrol Boat- common
Minesweeper common

France-

Bearn- rare
Lorraine Class BB- rare
Torpedo bomber- common
Fighter- common

Russia-

Voroshilov cruiser- reprint- rare
L16 submarine- common
Patrol bomber- uncommon

Germany-

Gneisenau- reprint- rare
Blucher- reprint-rare
Minelayer or minesweeper- common
U-99- common

Italy-

Trieste cruiser- reprint-rare
Sirena Class submarine- common
Minelayer- common

Japan-

Kaga CV- rare
Zuiho CVL- uncommon- reprint
Fuso BB- rare- reprint
Takao Class cruiser- rare
Tenryu Class Light cruiser- uncommon
Minelayer- common
Explosive Boat- common or a submarine common
Oscar Fighter- common

Name of the set?

Enemy Below     Twisted Evil


You need a fletcher class, theres no way they wouldnt have one.
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Maybe, maybe not... I for one--anyone else been with me on this?--have been leaning on RB to consider Sumner/Gearing (Laffey) or Benson/Gleaves classes (once we get one) as alternates for the US Reprint Destroyer slot.

And RB told me if Trento/Trieste happen they'll be whole new sculpts, way back in the days when Set 2 was first confirmed to have reprints IIRC.
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LuckyE77 wrote:
DaJudge wrote:
Here is my proposal for set IV, I wonder how close I'll be......

Based on another 40 unit set

USN-

USS Wasp (rare)
USS Lexington (reprint of Sartoga) rare
USS West Virginia rare
USS Nashville (Boise reprint) uncommon
USS Pittsburgh (Baltimore reprint)rare
USS Darter (Barb reprint) common
Wickes or Clemson Class Destroyer-common
Minesweeper- common
Corsair fighter- common

Canada

RCN Ontario- Swiftsure class cruiser- rare

Australia

HMAS Vampire DD- common

UK

HMS Furious- rare
HMS Queen Elizabeth- reprint- rare
Dido Class cruiser- uncommon
Fiji class cruiser- reprint of Jamaica- uncommon
V & W Class destroyer- common
MA 22 type Patrol Boat- common
Minesweeper common

France-

Bearn- rare
Lorraine Class BB- rare
Torpedo bomber- common
Fighter- common

Russia-

Voroshilov cruiser- reprint- rare
L16 submarine- common
Patrol bomber- uncommon

Germany-

Gneisenau- reprint- rare
Blucher- reprint-rare
Minelayer or minesweeper- common
U-99- common

Italy-

Trieste cruiser- reprint-rare
Sirena Class submarine- common
Minelayer- common

Japan-

Kaga CV- rare
Zuiho CVL- uncommon- reprint
Fuso BB- rare- reprint
Takao Class cruiser- rare
Tenryu Class Light cruiser- uncommon
Minelayer- common
Explosive Boat- common or a submarine common
Oscar Fighter- common

Name of the set?

Enemy Below     Twisted Evil


You need a fletcher class, theres no way they wouldnt have one.


Thats a pretty good list but I would rather have the USS Texas instead of the West Virginia. The Texas served in both WW1 and WW2 in both theaters, in her entire time in service lost only one sailor to enemy action (helmsman on duty, Christen Christensen killed by shrapnel from a German 240 mm shell), and the Texas still exists to this day making her one of the oldest original ships in the world at almost 100 years old. As for the germans how about the auxilary cruisers I mean one sunk the HMAS Sydney, Give it an SA that can make it a Neutral Merchantman and force the attacking ship back to the deploymant zone because of a formal inqury into the attack (just a though). That or give the Germans seaplanes and seaplane tenders  (one of the tenders had a catapult) Just my two cents worth.
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Too bad--West Virginia's already announced, confirmed and locked.

Yeah, I want Texas too, but it'll probably be Set V at earliest.
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