Forumini'09 Creativity: Challenge #7 of 10 (Deadline 7 Aug)

jfkziegler · **jfkziegler**

Design Your Own WWII Unit That Never Was

Create an image and specifications for a WWII unit that was never created. This should not be a unit that was planned, but instead a completely new creation. Make sure you stick to things that would have been possible with technology of the era. Some examples might be a piece of artillery, or a battleship, or a plane. Make sure you post your image and specifications here, and try to keep it as realistic as possible. Your image can be either an image as it would have looked if completed, or blueprints would be fine as well.

Deadline: 7 August 2009, 23.59 US Pacific Time

(You can change your entry until the deadline)

Then, we will vote for the coolest entry. The scores for every creativity challenge are:
1st 10 pts, 2nd 8, 3rd 7, 4th 6, 5th 4, 6th 3, 7th 2, 8th 1

Post your entries or clarification questions here. Please do not comment about other people's entries.
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The Tirpitz · **The Tirpitz**

You should put this in the Announcements place. I barely noticed.

Anyways, good idea, I'll enter in this one.

RAEVSKI · **RAEVSKI**

cool
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NeuralDream · **NeuralDream**

Brilliant challenge. I love it.

Here's my entry:

Bugatti 75mm Anti-tank Roadster
In 1935, Mussolini, who had realised the importance of antitank mobility, asked Bugatti to develop an extremely fast antitank vehicle. Bugatti came up with a design for an unarmoured vehicle similar to their racing cars, with the addition of a 75mm antitank rifle. The car could carry only 6 rounds externally. A hydraulic system controlled the vertical axis of the gun and the facing of the car determined the horizontal axis. The prototype was tested in Abyssinia towards the end of the Italo-Abyssinian war, but it proved inadequate against the elite force of the Ethiopians, the Royal Slingers, and production was cancelled. The single prototype can be seen today in the Museo Nazionale di Castel Sant'Angelo.

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Sharpe · **Sharpe**

I don't want to pick nits with the most exalted of all administrators, but is ND's entry within the guidelines? I thought this thing had to be ab ova. Unless, of course, he's kidding about the Bugatti and I just made a fool of myself.

In a war that gave us Operation Habakkuk, the bat bomb and dogs trained to sniff out and attack Asians, this is going to be very hard.
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jfkziegler · **jfkziegler**

Sharpe · **Sharpe**

Original idea by the submitter or an idea from WW2?
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jfkziegler · **jfkziegler**

Sharpe · **Sharpe**

Cool
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Sharpe · **Sharpe**

SPECIAL BEAR SERVICE

Trooper Knut ponders his next move against U-543.

Building on Wojtek's heroics in the Italian theater and the promise of the Cat Island project where fierce dogs were trained to attack Asians, the Pentagon launched Operation Nanook. Alaskan scouts trapped two dozen polar bears and shipped them to the town of Churchill on the Hudson Bay. Caged near a mock-up of a German U-Boat, the poor beasts were nearly drowned with Heineken while listening to excruciatingly loud renditions of Wagnerian arias until they literally foamed at the mouth at the sound of coloratura or the clink of a bottle opener. Once a day, the bears were turned loose to feed on seals, marinated in sauerkraut juice, which had been strapped to the deck of the ersatz submarine.

The trainers, from the Institute for Polar Studies at the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople, hoped to create a polar bear commando. The ursine troopers would range over the ice pack looking for German U-Boats which had stopped to repair damage or rest the crew in what they thought was a safe Arctic location. The slightest twinge of Germanness affecting any of their senses would send the bears into a murderous frenzy.

"You vould think that a bear could only hurt the crew," commented project director Dr. Roscoe Schickelgruber, "but ve have noticed many instances where the beast did serious damage to the boat itself. I believe that the bears think it is a whale. They are particularly good at ripping off diving planes. My assistants tell me that one even turned the deck gun around and holed the conning tower. Of course, ve don't expect such spectacular results every time. Just a few bites and scratches will often earn the bear a mention in dispatches.

"This project vill be invaluable to the Allied war effort. No longer vill the U-boats find refuge among the ice floes. I predict that soon the SBS vill have terrified German submarine crews so much that the Nazis vill tremble at the sight of a white rat on a sno-cone."

After Operation Nanook unleashed its fury in the North Atlantic, Dr. Schickelgruber had hoped to repeat his success in the CBI theater. Unfortunately for him, Operation Ling-Ling was cancelled after the Pentagon discovered that pandas were herbivorous.
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Captain Morevo · **Captain Morevo**

Oh. My. God.

I'm in, and this time I mean it.

Mmmmmmmmm.
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Captain Morevo · **Captain Morevo**

By "possible with the technology of the era" are we limited to what any nation could've actually made? For example, the germans really couldn't have actually built an H44 or the Ratte/Monster Supertanks, but are we assuming for this thing that we have our nations with "Unlimited Resources/Production Facilities"?
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acs0424 · **acs0424**

Hm, what if we don't have the ability to produce an image? Well I guess I will do this:

M11A650 "Lead Wall" Evans

History:
When the US realized they needed a tank that could uproot dug in infantry in urban combat, shoot down planes, and have the ultimate intimidation factor they developed the M4A650 evans tank.
It had a new type of turret with 6 slimmed downed 50 cals. They were able to modify in such a way that only one firing mechanism was required. Then they fitted 2 hatches with 50 cals on the turret, and a 50 cal co-axial turret in front. Totaling 9 50 caliber machine guns, almost nothing was safe from this tanks brutality. They also put more armor on it, slowing it down but increasinh\g its survivability.

Ammunition:
Either uses normal bullets or armor piercing.
Once the nuclear bomb was developed people started working on how to fit a tiny nuclear warhead in the tip of a bullet, this proved unsuccesful but was designed for the guns on the M11A650 evans.

Combat History:
Deployed to a new elite unit known as the 1st Elite Urban Warfare Troop, roughly 5000 troops, they were part of the only tank regiment in the troop. With a total of 100 tanks in the troop things didn't look good for a city. Some troops found ways to store bazookas in their tanks, thhough the 50 cals could take out armored cars and halftracks.

The 1st EUWT was supposed to deploy close enough to attack a Japanese city and participate in the invasion. This never happened, they were called over to europe. They participated in D-Day landing on the other side of the Cotentin, inflicting massive damage.

They were then trained to assault berlin if need be but assaulted many towns/small cities all through france.

Meawhile the M11A650 evans and its crews had racked up over 5000 enemy casualties duriing d-day and the following week.

Due to the great success the 1st EUWT was deployed later in Korea, then the tank and troop was retired.

Time Period - The m11a650 evans was designed in 1943, january. Production went into place october of that year. The 1st EUWT went to training in February 1944. While serving in the 1st and 2nd EUWT's the new evans tank racked up a total amount of over 15,000 enemy casualties:

10000 troops (enlisted)
3000 armored cars/halftracks
1000 other vehicles
100 tanks
50 aircraft
800 officers

to a total lost out of 350 tanks, only 5 were lost, 3 to a king tiger, 1 sunk while swimming on d-day, and 1 to a mine in japan.

The tank was successful and reasonably inexpensive. The 9 50 cals were devestating and the crews and surrounding infantry loved the tank.

Overall Specs:
Max Speed - 25 MPH
Armament - 9 .50 caliber machine guns
Crew - 5 - commander, driver, targeter, shooter, hatch shooter.
Armor - Classified

AAM Stats:
Cost - 25
Speed - 3
Armor - 6/5
AI - 15/11/9
AT - 8/5/3
SA's -
Doubleshot
Elite Urban Combat - This unit gets +1 on each die while attacking a unit in a town hex or while attacking from a town hex
Lots of Guns - This tank cannot be attacked by close assault unless from Antitank weapons.
Stored Bazookas - At range 1 this unit as AT value 10.

After War - The Evans tank frame went on to be turned into a heavy urban tank. It also had a new engine that could take it beyond 50 MPH. The co-axial front MG was replaces with an 88mm gun and the 6-50 cals were replaced by 4 in the turret.
This happened in 1945, about a month before the war ended, it never went into service during WW2.

AAM Stats:
Cost - 70
Speed - 4
Armor - 8/6
AI - 13/10/10
AT - 18/16/12
SA's
Extended range 10
Doubleshot
Superior Armor 2
Large Recoil - This tank can only attack other tanks every other turn.

The tank may have looked something like this but nobody knows for sure:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikip...mb/3/34/Ontos.jpg/300px-Ontos.jpg

(not my pic but I hope it does suffice)

I hoped you guys enjoyed the backround. I can try and get an image but its unlikely. This should be legal.
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jfkziegler · **jfkziegler**

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NeuralDream · **NeuralDream**

Well, I made up the number, but I'm sure it wouldn't be below 180 km/h despite the size of the gun. Anyway, I think we aren't supposed to comment on entries before the voting process.
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DaJudge · **DaJudge**

I'm not into this sort of thing usually but I have this Russian bomber that is a rather unique design- Smile

This 10 engine craft has 6 12 inch guns, 6 8 inch guns, 8 6 inch guns, and 40 machine guns for defense and strafing. It carries 40 8 inch rockets under each wing.

Air speed is a lumbering 220 mph with a range of 3,000 miles with full load.

Crew compliment is 45.

The recoil from the 12 inch guns is an issue, of course but special gyroscopes help it maintain stability. Typically, after one salvo, air speed drops from 220 to 140 mph so engines must be under full throttle to fire one set of guns at a time.

This aircraft is very costly but its heavy armor protection and multitude of engines make it very survivable.

Wink

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acs0424 · **acs0424**

ND, yes I could. Unfortunately none of my friends can draw and I don't know anybody on the forum who can do graphics. If anybody wants to help a fellow gamer out (plleasse!) send me a PM even if all you can do is the most basic design.

On another note, is my entry legal?
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jurgenaut · **jurgenaut**

Edit: Since all the silly proposals above mine have been removed or retracted, my contribution looks even sillier than I thought possible, and thus withdrawn. I might come up with something a bit more realistic.