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AoD has moved the cards here for comparison.
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Temporary hijack for posting all cards made until now :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I have the bad habit of ignoring stickies and I almost missed this thread.
Some quick comments:
CARPATHIAN HERITAGE is a bit confusing. So, this unit is both German and Hungarian? In a hypothetical Germans Vs Hungarians battle, would both have this unit?
get -1 Attack die can easily be mistaken as -1 on each attack die. I would rephrase it as "roll one fewer attack die when ..."
For the two Finns, I think it would be better to rewrite the text of Close assault in Molotov cocktail:
"This unit has an attack value of 5 against vehicles in its hex. The attack is against the vehicle's rear defense and ignores cover. If it rolls three sixes, immediately place a face-up Damaged counter on the target"
The Fucillo Modello M91 riflemen have anti-vehicle 2 when adjacent to commanders?
Nice S.A. this Fieldworks. Smart.
In DADAO replace "make an Hand ..." with "make a Hand ..."
"Good order" seems to add unnecessary terminology. Shouldn't we can just stay "... that is not pinned or demoralized"?
If Hand to Hand 10 isn't in the rules, I think it needs to be written like all others. Use a smaller font if needed.
If we don't intend to make more evzone cards, maybe a more generic name would be more appropriate. The image doesn't show the specific regiment.
I still think that range 5 is too much for regular unscoped riflemen, but if I'm the only one, then that's ok. I just wonder what the sniper range would be then.
What is the star next to SMLE Mk.III? Will there also be a card without the star?
In terms of costs, the units seem to be balanced and consistent with their reputation.
Very good job, all of you  .
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Actually, could you make one Sniper card before we agree to lock these ones? It would be good to see how they compare. Contrary to common misconceptions, most sniper kills happened at 200-300 yards and the maximum was about 600-700 (according to Martin Pegler's "Out Of Nowhere")
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1st Mtn Brig-->Change ALPINE text to "Enemy units get one fewer Attack Die against unit in hill or mountain hex. This unit ignores Movement Rolls except when crossing a river." (Important: Must fit in two lines)
Change CARPATHIAN HERITAGE text to "Friendly German commanders affect this unit."
MAS Riflemen--> Final range box should be 3-4.
Please change "-1 Attack Die" to "one fewer Attack Die" whenever possible.
Change MOLOTOV COCKTAIL X text to ""This unit has an attack value of X against vehicles in its hex. The attack is against the vehicle's rear defense and ignores cover. If three 6's are rolled, immediately place an addtional face-up Damaged marker."
Hanyang--> Change "an" to "a" in SA text.
Change name of Evzone to "Greek Evzone Infantry"
Italian Riflemen-->AV value for range 0-1 should be "0" (not"-")
Thanks.
(Let me know if this is too long)"
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1. Listed changes for AoD and sent him a PM.
2. "Good Order" is defined in rules. I will also add HtH and CA to a special attacks section.
3.SMLE III* was a different model than SMLE III. Everybody was running amok about accuracy. . .
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I looked a bit more for ranges of unscoped riflemen and snipers. By far the best unscoped rifleman was Simo Häyhä, who once killed an enemy officer at 450 yards. This was approximately 200 yards above the average of his regiment. For (scoped) snipers there has never been any account of distance over 700 yards. Simo Häyhä never used one, because scopes presented a larger target for enemy snipers, so we can't compare.
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3.SMLE III* was a different model than SMLE III. Everybody was running amok about accuracy. . .
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 This will be interesting. I've never seen a star next to a model before. Nice .
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Read it. Will start working on them tomorrow.
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| Sharpe wrote: | | (Important: Must fit in two lines) |
Why is it important? The cards have been designed to fit at least 4 S.A.s. Minimum font for readable cards is 6 and the one on that card is about 8.
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One line was one word long. I was trying to keep the font at 8 for those of us in the bifocal club.
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Fixed some cards. Will finish the rest real soon.
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I think it's better to first revise/lock them and then make the cards, so that you don't have to do it twice. Also, when you make the final versions, they will have to be high-quality images. Do you have photoshop? If yes, then the way to achieve high quality is:
step 1. Publisher. Save as .png 300 pixels/inch.
step 2. Open with photoshop. Save as .jpg. Keep this somewhere safe in case we ever publish the high-res images.
step 3. Photoshop. Image -> Size -> 100 pixels/inch. Post this image in the stickies, when the card is officially approved and considered locked.
Btw, I'll need to make you a mod here and in the FA units section. I'll do it now.
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| Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:38 pm |
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Thanx. Cards are done so far. Awaiting further comments.
Got my -good- computer up and running again too. Yey. Including Photoshop.
And thanx for the mod functions. I'm an admin in a 40k forum so I can handle it.
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Russian--> Insert "friendly" before "Soldier-Commander"
Italian--> Insert "friendly before "Soldier-Commander"
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Will we make more Vintvoka Mosina riflemen? If not, then the model isn't needed
Mannlicher Schonauer Y1903/14/27 is huge. Shouldn't it just be Greek Riflemen or Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen? (Y1903 is enough to describe that this is the Greek unit). Whether they received them in 1927 or 1930 wouldn't change anything, right?
Greek Evzone infantry can simply be EVZONE. It's as sufficient as JAAKARIT for the Finnish. There is no non-Greek Evzone and there is no non-Infantry Evzone.
Will we make more Uhlans? Probably not, right? If so, UHLANS is enough.
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| NeuralDream wrote: | Will we make more Vintvoka Mosina riflemen? If not, then the model isn't needed
Mannlicher Schonauer Y1903/14/27 is huge. Shouldn't it just be Greek Riflemen or Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen? (Y1903 is enough to describe that this is the Greek unit). Whether they received them in 1927 or 1930 wouldn't change anything, right?
Greek Evzone infantry can simply be EVZONE. It's as sufficient as JAAKARIT for the Finnish. There is no non-Greek Evzone and there is no non-Infantry Evzone.
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1. I don't know. Every name I come up with causes an objection. I'm trying to think ahead and not paint us in a corner.
2. That was the model name on the Greek rifle. Just trying to be accurate. Change it however you want.
3. Simply EVZONE is fine with me, but people had objections to card names that required a visit to Babelfish.
4. 24th Uhlans was a specific unit from 10th Mech Brig and should not be confused with other uhlans (cavalry). We will be making other Uhlans when Polish cavalry comes out.
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Ok, so my understanding is that
1. Vintovka Mosina M91/30 should stay as it is
2. you are ok with my suggestion for "Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen"
3. you are ok with my suggestion for simply "Evzone" instead of the current name
4. 24th Uhlans should remain as it is.
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| NeuralDream wrote: | Ok, so my understanding is that
1. Vintovka Mosina M91/30 should stay as it is
2. you are ok with my suggestion for "Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen"
3. you are ok with my suggestion for simply "Evzone" instead of the current name
4. 24th Uhlans should remain as it is. |
So it is written, so it shall be done.
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| NeuralDream wrote: | Ok, so my understanding is that
1. Vintovka Mosina M91/30 should stay as it is
2. you are ok with my suggestion for "Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen"
3. you are ok with my suggestion for simply "Evzone" instead of the current name
4. 24th Uhlans should remain as it is. |
1. I prefer Mosin-Nagant 91/30, but either works.
2. I like Mannlicher Y1903 Riflemen
3. I prefer Greek Evzone, but I see your point, it is redundant. Something more descriptive like Evzone Light Infantrymen or something might work.
4. I am on the record as being opposed to specific unit names.
I think Sharpe is doing a bang up job with the units and unit names considering how many different opinions he hears about each one.
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| Buzzkill wrote: | I prefer Greek Evzone, but I see your point, it is redundant. Something more descriptive like Evzone Light Infantrymen or something might work.
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Evzone Infantry would be ok then, I guess.
| Quote: | | I think Sharpe is doing a bang up job with the units and unit names considering how many different opinions he hears about each one. |
Indeed.
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