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Post subject: British SMLE Mk III* Riflemen [APPROVED & LOCKED]
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(0-1) 9/ (2-4) 6/ (5) 5
(0-1) 1
Cover 5
Speed 1
Defense 4/7
CA4
FIRE CONTROL--This unit ignores the restriction on Defensive Fire from a "Hit the Dirt!" counter.
Cost 4
Note: This represents the pre-WW2 regular army.
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Month of availability?
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| NeuralDream wrote: | | Month of availability? |
That's your job, history-boy. 
Seriously, how will dates work? What is the earliest possible date?
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No idea. When were they first used in the British army? Jan. 1907? If in your opinion the unit represented by this card would have close assault 6 and the same stats in 1907, then Jan. 1907. In my opinion, it depends on close assault. What weapons did they use and how is such a high value justified? If it was satchel charges that were invented much later, then their date is what determines the date of availability.
In other words, when is the earlier date that this unit would have these stats and S.A.s.
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What is your view on Close Assault? Should it start off low across the board and go up?
I'm lost in this area. Give me a history lesson.
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| Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:13 pm |
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Close assault is something I never really figured out. So, let's continue this discussion in the FA General subforum or maybe AAM General.
Some examples: A British antitank rifle grenade can kill a pz3h very easily from 10-20 yards (close assault), but isn't this a separate unit (antitank rifle grenadier)? I don't really know. A satchel charge can kill any tank too. Molotov cocktails were also extremely powerful and again they represent close assault. Someone more knowledgeable could tell us maybe what close assault is in the case of a group of 5 regular riflemen. LotharLutjens maybe? If nobody knows here, we can ask in Gleemax. They have 1-2 who could know.
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Aussie infantry will be similar, but alway had tough reputation
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Australian Cavalry
EXTRA BOUNCY--This unit ignores all Movement Rolls for walls and streams.
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| Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:51 pm |
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hahahahaha
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| Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:58 pm |
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It was Light horse and not Cavalry a distinct difference
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Australian Light Kangaroo Corps?
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Yeah thats the one
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Date 7/36
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Dates, gentlemen, dates.
See post above. 7/36
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| Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:20 am |
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Shouldn't this be 9/6/4? It was supposed to be fantastic at low range (fastest bolt-action rifle at the time and particularly lethal), but very difficult to aim at longer ranges for prolonged periods of time due to weight. In that sense, the Lee Enfield Mk.III was the Thompson of rifles.
Will this rifle's card have different name in different nations? It was used by dozens of nations during, before and after WW2.
I'm still a bit worried with the ranges of riflemen. I think that the range-4 values are generally high and that range 5 is sniper range. Wouldn't it be more accurate to use 0-1, 2-3, and 4?
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| Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:03 am |
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My thinking was that the professional British infantry practiced quite a bit of musketry between the wars. It was kind of a fetish. They should have an advantage over the conscript French and Germans. I don't really know anything specific about the L-E.
I"ll change the name and stats.
Mr. Buzzkill, clean up in aisle 3, please.
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| Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:19 am |
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One last question. All these units that have specific names instead of a generic weapon, will they be unique like heroes (one per army)?
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| Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:27 am |
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No. I'm just using them so we differentiate between all the units that will be carrying that weapon. We either need several units named "M1 Garand 19XX" or something else. Everybody seems to have a different view of consistency.
I think it would be odd to use the "2nd Sherwood Foresters" in the same warband as the "Black Watch" and the "3rd Coldstream Guards" and I wouldn't like to see that happen. I don't see why you'd only use one unit, though.
I remember when my son and I played a Hong Kong scenario, we had a platoon from the Winnipeg Rifles, one from the Brit regt (whatever it was) and one platoon from the HK Defence Batt. That would be OK, like they used to do in ASL.
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| Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:39 am |
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I guess that's ok then.
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| Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:41 am |
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Let me know what you want. Problems:
1. Name of weapon: In some cases, lots of countries used that rifle.
2. Generic "German Infantry": We're going to have different versions as fireteams and their stats evolve.
3. Named units as representative of the army at that point: Nobody likes this.
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