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Set IX: Early War: Confirmed Units (Nov. 18th, 2009)
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Pz I and Panzerjäger I - finally something I could reuse for Early War FoW in larger quantities... but with Soviet Conscripts (aka Mosin-Nagant 2.0), KettenKrads and most probably no improvement in molds, I am not convinced to buy anything else than few singles and start thinking about AAM again  Confused
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From the Boosterlist the unidentified Italien Gun would be the
Canonne da 75/27 modello 11
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From the list at page I

50 units and the known booster structure (M2A0s half case)

there will be 10 common 20 uncommon and 20 rares

36 units have "leaked" so far

we already know 9 commons for sure what is the last - I bet on the Type LMG - though Slovakia could need a basic Soldier Wink

10 uncommons are known, but I assume the greek Cavalry, Marmon Harrington, Bycicle Troops and Slovak Motorcycle are uncommons too, so we miss ONLY 4 more ????

10 rares (including all 4! planes) are known, I assume the Captured Carro and the unidentified SA tank are rares, so we still need to know 8 more...

Planes 4 known - are there again 5 planes - wonder which could be the 5th... Spitfire ? we have it already, but UK is the ONLY big nation without a plane so far... A Finnish or Polish plane would be like candy Wink

I counted 16 infantry, so two more are missing - ideas ?

16 Vehilces - so far .... the rest make up the balance to 50 units Wink

there are 9 V2 reprints - I count 5 known CArro Armoto (captured), Sd Kfz 2, Sd Kfz 231, Kübelwagen, Morris,... 4 more - how bad can it get (the Carro is the only  - lets say - acceptable so far Wink)

4 v1 rescales - I count the 7TP in and the Chi Ro too , so two more - I would be glad if they were SiG 33 and BT-7 ... but - sigh

So out of 14 units we don't know 6 are old firends to us... wondering about the 8 new...
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I am so excited by this set!  Very Happy

This looks like it's going to be the best set since the new scale was implemented.
It fills so many holes long time players have been waiting for... well a long time:

Australia is getting a first tank (now if they can also get a Dingo scout car?);
France finally gets artillery, a plane and even a transport;
Poland has been waiting forever for a commander, a real tank and artillery;
Soviets are finally getting an early war fighter plane;
Germany finally gets the essential early war dive-bombing Stuka;
Japan is getting a much needed LMG (even thought "Covering Fire" has been nerfed, it will still help the Banzai Charge... now if they can only get a transport unit....?

Not sure we need more "smaller" nations to be introduced to the game at this point, but I guess that if i was a Belgian, South African or Slovak player I bet I would as excited as when the game first introduced Canada to the game.  I just wish Wizards would introduce all nations the way they did with Finland and Hungary: with a basic soldier, commander, tank/vehicle and a support unit.

So, of the remaining unknown 14 units i am hoping for:

Belgian commander, Greek (captured?) vehicle/tank, South African Commander, Soviet AA gun, British indirect fire unit (to use with their otherwise useless spotter) and mortar (which would have been a much more needed unit than a 3rd scout car!), Finland's own sniper, Italian Bersaglieri, Japan's much needed transport unit and an indirect fire unit for that new Jungle Spotter, and Slovakian Commander with a basic soldier and either artillery or tank.
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Richter von Manthofen wrote:

4 v1 rescales - I count the 7TP in and the Chi Ro too , so two more - I would be glad if they were SiG 33 and BT-7 ... but - sigh


Not sure i would count the new 7TP as a rescale.  It's actually a brand new unit.  We are not getting  the twin MG model of the old scale but the one with the anti-tank gun.

I wish they had decided to upscale the Ho-Ni (best japanese tank) instead of the Chi-Ro (the one i like the least).  But I guess the early war theme warrant that decision.
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IIRC the Ho-Niwas introduced in 1942, so no chance, but I hope for Set XII War in the Pacific (to be announced)...

Whe I first saw the Sd Kfzs being reprinted, I was disappointed, but now I am really happy ... (For the moment)
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Wow with the current list I can't wait for this set.  I'm thinking 2 cases for christmas.
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France will be one hell of a beast with their new units.

They have great infantry, good tanks, and now with artillery, transport and plane we migh have a Big 5!

France, USA, GE, USSR, UK

All nations can hold their own (france when EW comes out).

Luckily I still have all my french infantry and renaults.

Almost time to re-write my invasion of france scenario.
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acs0424 wrote:
France will be one hell of a beast with their new units.

They have great infantry, good tanks, and now with artillery, transport and plane we migh have a Big 5!

France, USA, GE, USSR, UK

All nations can hold their own (france when EW comes out).

Luckily I still have all my french infantry and renaults.

Almost time to re-write my invasion of france scenario.


Good idea!

I agree that france will be a tough adversary. Cool
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Pre '42 the French are legit.
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Depending on how good their plane is they could be legit any year.  Because most of their stuff is relatively cheap point wise you can bring lots of them.  

I'd say however that they are primarily a defensive army.  With slow, numerous tanks. Very numerous but not fast.  I'm hoping the halftrack will chance that. Alpine Troops in halftracks supported by Somua's, partisans, artillery, and planes.
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don't know if this has allready been asked... why are the netherlands not involved here?
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For belgium I hope we got all this unit in several set :

Infantry:

-Basic infantry (mauser 1889)
-Lmg (Lewis gun or Chauchat)
-Mg team (We have vickers and hotchkiss so I want to see Colt mg)
-Commander (they have a good pistol FN model 1910)
- mortar ? sniper ?

Vehicles:

-Berliet 4x4 VUDB model 1929
-Vickers Carden-Loyd Mk.VI 47 mm FRC Tank Destroyer
-ABCC tank
-T.15 Light Tank
-Truck but I chose national vehicles so : FN 63-4RM 4x4
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Europa1942 wrote:
don't know if this has allready been asked... why are the netherlands not involved here?


I presume because we capitulated/surrendered after 5 days (10-15 may 1940) after Hitler ordered the bombing of Rotterdam, which happened even though we capitulated.
We had 14 armored cars, no tanks, a small air force and not too much artillery. Still the Germans werent making much progress after the initial success. Without the terrorbombing we might have lasted a few weeks (like Belgium).

Our main colony (East Indies / Indonesia) had KNIL forces (Royal Dutch Indonesian Legion) who had better equipment then the home forces (but a lot less numbers). But they were not much of a match against the overwhelming Japanese forces.

Maybe in a later expansion though. The 'WW1 equipment, but still fighting' one.
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From hey_yu:

To whet some more appetites:

PzKpfw IV Ausf. A
Vehicle - Tank 1939
Cost: 12
Speed: 3
Defense 3/3
AP: 7/7/6
AV: 10/9/8

http://community.wizards.com/go/t...Booster&post_num=32#377845733
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Pz IV A - should be a Reprint/Upscale from V1 - similar to the D
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List updated - Panzer IV Ausf. A added. Very Happy
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From our friend M2A0 - see other forum ->

UK

Cruiser Mk III A13
Vehicle - Tank 1940
Cost 9
Speed 4
Defense 2/2
AP 5/5/4
AV 9/8/6
Vanguard

Cheap, fast and having a decent AV punch - Italians beware - RvM

POL

TKS Ursus Tankette
Vehicle - Assault Gun 1939 (I don't know why we called it a Assault Gun, should have been listed as a tankette or tank)
Cost 6
Speed 4
Defense 2/2
AP 5/5/4
AV 5/4/3
Fixed Howitzer (again, should have been listed as a Fixed Gun imo, no big deal same rule in the end)
Hard to Spot

All this little buggerlacks is a good punch, but it could be useful against trucks and Halftracks. Recon and supply line cutting (a factor in my campaign) - RvM
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Richter von Manthofen wrote:
From our friend M2A0 - see other forum ->

UK

Cruiser Mk III A13
Vehicle - Tank 1940
Cost 9
Speed 4
Defense 2/2
AP 5/5/4
AV 9/8/6
Vanguard

Cheap, fast and having a decent AV punch - Italians beware - RvM

POL

TKS Ursus Tankette
Vehicle - Assault Gun 1939 (I don't know why we called it a Assault Gun, should have been listed as a tankette or tank)
Cost 6
Speed 4
Defense 2/2
AP 5/5/4
AV 5/4/3
Fixed Howitzer (again, should have been listed as a Fixed Gun imo, no big deal same rule in the end)
Hard to Spot

All this little buggerlacks is a good punch, but it could be useful against trucks and Halftracks. Recon and supply line cutting (a factor in my campaign) - RvM


Thanks for posting the infos here RvM! Very Happy
(Dang Wizard board is closed to me it seems! grrr)

I don't think the new british tank will be that big a menace vs Italy.  In fact I like to play Italy and would rather face the Mark III than those darned tough Matildas...  Still the cheap cost and speed will make the Mark III a good filler for early war.

As for the tankette, I am just happy to see Poland get a second vehicle.  I would have prefered a rescale of the MG version of the 7TP, to be paired with the new 7TP tanks.  Still, beggars can't be choosers.  More options for Poland is a good thing.
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wow poland stand alone, now
3 tanks
1 ATGun
2-3 inf
1 cav
1 officer
1 mg ?
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