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Post subject: Set IX: Early War: Confirmed Units (Nov. 18th, 2009)
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WotC is trying for a late Nov. 2009 release, but it's probably going to be Dec. 2009 at best. Its theme will be Early War. Mainly 1939-41. Maybe also 1942.
GENERAL INFORMATION
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There will be 50 units in the set.
There will be 9 reprints, all V2.
There will be a total of 4 units which are neither pure reprints nor new molds; these will likely be rescaled V1 vehicles.
There will be 37 new molds.
There will be 18 infantry-type units, including cavalry, motorcycles, and anti-tank guns.
There will be a number of Japanese and Soviet units (unidentified) which participated in Chalkin Gol.
There will be no ace aircraft in this set.
There will be no tank commanders in this set.
There will be no hero units in this set.
There will be no support units in this set.
There will be no obstacles in this set.
There will be no US unit (in any incarnation) in this set. So, no Sherman!
There will be no Chinese, Canadian, Romanian, or Hungarian units in this set.
The only newly introduced nations in this set will consist of Belgium, South Africa, and Slovakia.
It appears that there will be a total of three artillery pieces in this set; one French, one Polish, and one Italian.
All units in this set (with two exceptions) will have action dates which fall within 1939-1941. The two exceptions will have action dates of 1942. Thus, there will be no units with 1943-1945 action dates.
ALLIED:
Australia
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Carro Armato M11/39 (Captured)
Belgium
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Belgian Infantry
- Common.
T13B3 Tank Destroyer:
- Vehicle - Tank Destroyer, Rare, 1940, Cost: 10, Speed: 4, Armor: 2/2, AP: 6/6/4, AV: 10/8/7
France
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Canon de 75 modèle 1897 (75mm Anti-Tank Gun)
- Common.
FCM-36:
- Vehicle - Tank, Rare, 1940, Cost: 11, Speed: 3, Armor: 4/4, AP: 6/6/5, AV: 8/7/5, Superior Frontal Armor 2
Morane-Saulnier M.S.406
- Aircraft, Rare.
P107 Halftrack
- Uncommon.
Greece
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Greek Cavalry
Poland
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TKS Ursus Tankette
- Vehicle, Assault Gun, 1939, Cost: 6, Speed: 4, Armor: 2/2, AP: 5/5/4, AV: 5/4/3, SAs - Fixed Howitzer, Hard to Spot
7TP:
- Vehicle, Tank, Rare, 1939, Cost: 9, Speed: 3, Armor: 2/2, AP: 6/6/5, AV: 9/7/5
Polish Officer
- Uncommon.
Wz.36 37mm ATG
- Common.
South Africa (Total of 3 Units)
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Marmon-Herrington MkII Armoured Car
South African Infantry
- Common.
Tank (Unidentified)
Soviet Union
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Mig 1 (Fighter Aircraft)
Mongolian Cavalry
- Uncommon.
Soviet Conscript
- Common.
T-28:
- Vehicle - Tank, Rare.
United Kingdom
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British Expeditionary Force (Infantry)
- Common.
Cruiser Mk III A13
- Vehicle - Tank, 1940, Cost: 9, Speed: 4, Armor: 2/2, AP: 5/5/4, AV: 9/8/7
Morris Recon Car Mk. II (reprint)
- Uncommon.
AXIS:
Finland
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Ski Troopers
- Common.
Germany
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JU 87B Stuka
- Aircraft, Rare.
Kubelwagon V (reprint)
- Uncommon.
Panzer I Ausf. B
- Vehicle - Tank, Uncommon.
Panzer IV Ausf. A
- Vehicle - Tank, 1939, Cost: 12, Speed: 3, Armor: 3/3, AP: 7/7/6, AV: 10/9/8
Panzerjager I
- Uncommon.
Motorized Schutzen unit (pre-'42 Panzergrenadier)
- Common.
Sd Kfz 2 Halftrack (reprint)
- Uncommon.
Sd Kfz 231 (reprint)
- Uncommon.
Germany will NOT receive a MG-34 Machine-Gun Team in this set.
Italy
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Canonne da 75/27 Modello 11
- Common.
Semovente L40 da 47/32
- Rare.
Japan
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Bicycle Troops
Jungle Spotter
- Uncommon.
Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar"
Type 89B Chi-Ro
- Rare.
Type 99 LMG (light machine gun)
Slovakia
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Motorcycle Recon Unit with the following new SA:
- "Recon - While a unit with Recon has line of sight to an enemy unit, you get +1 on initiative rolls."
Updated 18/11/09
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I think we also can add - NO TIGERS + Panthers  - and units for US/JP far east clash (chalkin gol) - which units ????
And don't forget Belgian Troops...
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Yes! No Americans for once! As soon as I saw the Morane-Saulnier MS.406, I knew this is going to be my favorite set.
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Could the M-S 406 be a Finnish unit? - this would leave space for D520 for France...
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| Richter von Manthofen wrote: | | Could the M-S 406 be a Finnish unit? - this would leave space for D520 for France... |
F2A for the Finns, I say.
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Hehe, that's wishful thinking. No way we get Finnish aircraft so quickly. I'm sure it's the French one, because M2A0 was replying to a question about French aircraft and I don't think he would reply with a French-built aircraft used by the Finnish in this set.
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So quickly? Come on, it won't hurt to include the Winter War in this set.
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Fighter aircraft used by the Finns in WWII and the Winter War.
MY Brewster B-239 (Model 239)
Bristol Bulldog IIA ** and IVA
Caudron-Renault C.R. 714 *
Curtiss Hawk 75A
Curtiss P-40M Warhawk
FIAT G.50 "Freccia"
Fokker D.XXI
Gloster Gladiator I and II
Hawker Hurricane I and IIA ***
Lavochin LaGG-3
Messerschmitt Bf 109G-2 / G-6 / G-8
Morane-Saulnier M.S. 406 / M.S. 410
Mörkö-Morane
Polikarpov I-153
VL Myrsky II
I like the Fokker DR XXI.
But I also wouldn't mind the I-153 or the Gladiator .
I gotta have something for my future Cr.42's to shoot down.
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I'm going to go with infantry, vehicles, tanks, and planes. There might even be some artillery in there.
Sorry to be a wise guy but it's 10 months away, still dealing with the disappointment of 24 reprints in set VIII.  I will also be dealing with the joy of 30+ new units of set VIII. 
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A B-239 would make so happy! But I've learned to expect little  .
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Neural, wtf is happening in Greece? It is not clear from the TV news... I find it strange that from killing one guy a whole country is in revolt?
sorry about the off-topic
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Forgive me if my research is not accurate. My library is not so very extensive. But what I do know I will discuss.
Germany:
Ju-87B or D
Pz-35(t)
Pz-38(t)A or F (in my book it would be a new model if rescaled)
Not so sure about the Pz I but surely the Pz II D or F model
Did I mention the Ju-87B or D
PzJgd I
StuG IIIB
SIG IB
Bf-109b
PSW 222 or the 231 II would like the rescale)
Pz III G or H
Pz C or D (a rescale is needed)
Hungary:
Me-109e
Pz 38(t)A (rescale and a repaint would be just as sweet)
StuG IIIB
75mm or the 105mm
5cm PaK
Romania:
IAR 80 or P.24
R2 or R35 (a repaint would be ok, so would a rescale)
IAR 81
37mm or 47mm FlaK
75mm or 100mm
PSW 222 or 231
USSR:
I-16, La-GG-3, MiG-1 or 3
Il-2 or P-39D
BT-5 or 7 (again, a rescale would be most welcome)
Guards
A rerun of the support and obstacle units would be sweet. Can’t con anyone into swapping with me.
As a basic note: All nations should have at the minimum, infantry, machine gun, mortar, non-com. officer, anti tank, artillery, tank, anti aircraft, aircraft, and tactical bomber if they had one. I realize this cannot be achieved right away when only 45 or 60 minis are being printed, but to work towards this is what I ask from you.
Poland, Finland, Norway, Belgium, and the Netherlands should all be shown some love, Italy also though so far they are pretty competitive on their own. |
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I'm guessing but Panzer I's and II's maybe III's. An early T-34/76, 88mm flak, probably plenty of polish units to go around. Lots of planes idk.
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We are overdue for a Panzer I, and another Panzer II would be alright. Panzerjager I is also a must.
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Mh. Let's have a look at my small "Panzer der Wehrmacht 1933-45" book.
Ok. I would like to see:
- Borgward B IV Ausf. A Sd. Kfz. 301
- PzKpfw. I Ausf. A or B <- most missing for early missions
- PzKpfw. II B
- PzKpfw. III D or F
- PzKpfw. IV B or better D
- Panzerjaeger I
- Sturmgeschuetz III A-D
- Sturmpanzer I and II
- 60cm Moerser Geraet 40/41 Thor
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| NeuralDream wrote: | WotC is trying for a 1 Sep. 2009 release. Its theme will be Early War.
Up to now we know:
France
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MS.406
Poland
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7TP
United States
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there will be no US unit in this set. |
You forgot that M2A0 confirmed a Russian Fighter in the set.
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| Cpt. John Miller wrote: | | NeuralDream wrote: | WotC is trying for a 1 Sep. 2009 release. Its theme will be Early War.
Up to now we know:
France
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MS.406
Poland
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7TP
United States
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there will be no US unit in this set. |
You forgot that M2A0 confirmed a Russian Fighter in the set. |
Yes! I hope its a MiG-3.
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Yes! Finally some French and Russian air cover, and a suitable Polish tank.
Now if they could only make that Japanese spotter...
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| NeuralDream wrote: | WotC is trying for a 1 Sep. 2009 release. Its theme will be Early War.
Up to now we know:
France
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MS.406
Poland
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7TP
Soviet Union
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A fighter
United States
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there will be no US unit in this set. |
Hurray! So far it sounds great (though you never know with WotC). No U.S. for once; my Soviets finally get some air cover, as do the French; Polish get their "heavy" tank.
As for the Finns, if they're even included in Early War, I concur with Field Marshal PF: give them an F2A Brewster Buffalo. The plane itself more or less stunk, but in the hands of the Finnish pilots it took a devastating toll on Russian planes. Should have bad attacks but great defence and some sort of attack-modifying SA perhaps.....just an idea.
As for the Italians, IMHO one or two units might be in order. I am hoping/wishing for:
- either L3/35 Lancia fiamme (flamethrower), or L3/35 w/20mm Breda or Solothurn gun
- Cannone-Mitragliera da 20/77 (Scotti)--flak gun
- Italian Folgore Paras
- Fiat truck
That's just me though.
Hopefully the Early War will be better than the Eastern Front.  I have already decided that I am not buying any Eastern Front boosters, but am going to pick up the units that I need (mainly rares) singly if I can, either off the internet, Ebay, or through trades. Since many units were reprints I don't really need them.
Btw, I am a new member of these great forums, and am also PantherDude3000's older brother.
Regards!
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