Guidelines for the cards of Dreadnought Rising units

lotharlutjens · **lotharlutjens**

Version 1.1 of the new speed table has been added to page one of this sticky as well.

Version 1.1 ( Speed Table )

< 10kts= Cripples Speed 0 *** ( See Cripple Rule )

11-14kts= Monitors Speed 1
Trawlers and Subs

15-18kts= Pre-Dreadnoughts Speed 1 SA All Ahead Full
Coastal Def. Vessels

19-22kts= Dreadnoughts Speed 2
Slow Cruisers

23-26kts= Fst Dn's and Slw Bc's Speed 2 SA All Ahead Full
Fst Cruisers

27-30kts= Battlecruisers Speed 3
Scout Cruisers
Slow Destroyers

31kts + = Other fast craft Speed 4

Explanations......

All Ahead Full : If this unit makes no course deviations ( turns ) during it's movement step, this unit gains + 1 speed

Cripple Rule : ( This replaces WaS rule ) all crippled ships assume speed 0. A ship traveling speed 0 can either temporarily gain "All Ahead Full" and move 1 sector straight ahead, or, it may remain in the sector without moving, but may change it's facing. ( Crippled ships are struggling just to stay afloat, maneuvering is pretty much out of the question )
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Jesse_James · **Jesse_James**

Brass · **Brass**

The guidelines as posted don't include what constitutes L M and S guns and L M and S targets or the procedure for determining AA factors.

As I recall, we decided that Small guns were up to 5.5", Medium up to 7.5", and Large everything over that, although I think there was a suggestion to make 15" and above Very Large. I can't remember what the deal was with target size, although that may have been in the gun size discussion somewhere. I know there was a discussion of AA factors but I haven't been able to find it.

If we're going to add more ships we'll need this information, which I'm sure somebody with a better memory than mine can provide.
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swarbs · **swarbs**

I can look around a little bit too. If there won't be enough people around to really do ships, then perhaps at least we can put a lock on one version of the rule-book and get it all in order and in one place. Same with the stat guide-lines. Then it'll be easier to pump up production a bit later.
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swarbs · **swarbs**

You're right, there must have been some discussion elsewhere, perhaps in a ship thread or something.

Edit.

Here's two more:
http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about4111.html
http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about4186.html

The first one starts with a really big change that we didn't adopt, but I think they then tend towards what we ended up with.
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swarbs · **swarbs**

So, yes Small guns were up to 5.4, perhaps 5.5 depending on HMS Chester I think (which actually was the only example of 5.5's we've seen so far). For what constitutes the medium/large split I don't know yet, I've seen 7.5, 8.5, 9.9...

I think it's 8.5 after looking through the cards. There are 8"ers as small batteries, and I think I saw a 9.2 listed as a Large battery, but after looking at a bunch of cards, maybe I'm confused. I'm pretty sure it's 8.5.

You are right about 15" too, they get ER5, though not sure if they need a separate icon or a separate gun size.

This still leaves a place for ER SA's (a smaller gun that performs well) and perhaps for another SA, something like quick traverse (ship takes no penalty shooting down one ship size). Or a negative version for, say, a medium size gun whose ponderous rate of fire deserves a -1 against medium targets.

Anyway, I'm slowly starting to catch up.
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