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Musashi moves from D4 towards B2
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Your move is to C2 rather then to B2 I think...

uboat E5 to D4
uboat C5 to C4
uboat c7 to b6

surface group to B6

(109 flys cap)

your air if you want to risk it..

my torps from both uboats in range at Musashi

Range2 plus wolf pack

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Rolls: (3d6)       
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move on the last row on the map C2 to A2

last torpedos from you and i left the map then.
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uboat d4 to c3

all others hold

(bf109 cap over surface group)

uboat in range

Range 2 plus wolfpack

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and that as they say is that...
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" The German Uboat commander salutes you from his conning tower as you steam over the horizon with 3 small holes in your side and wonders why the hell he has just fought a battle with his IJN allies..."


Well... thats round II for us done and dusted.

Thanks for the match Lucky Y, Sorry it was a non-starter in game-play
enjoyment. Lets hope Grand Admiral gives us 150pts minimum for Round III!

the best of luck to you for the rest of the tourney!
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congrulations, better fleet choice wins the game.

w/o the center island it would be another game and I prbably can pull a victory....
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Look on the bright side...

We are the only two players with NO SHiPS OR PLANES LOST so far!
At least we dont have to write any next of kin letters to our sailors families!
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thats correct but how explain the withdraw to the imperial hardliners and how can I satisfy the poor kamikaze pilot who waits for his scrambling for take off..
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war is hell old chap...

how about telling the Kamikazi pilot that the runway was icy (works at heathrow all the time)?

Tell the Imperial High Command that you had to break off action owing to the craven nature of the german who hid on the other side of that bloody island rather then face your guns!

Anytime you fancy a re-match just send me a Pm... Only we use 200pt fleets!
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TF57, I'm betting that we are going to play each other next.
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its looking that way...

unless there are other players that pull off 2/0 ...

Im sure we are going to have to face off... ought to be one hell of a game.

Any clue as to the fleet size permitted in round III?
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None that I've heard of.

Should be large enough to realistically bring 1 BB, though.
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im still real Hazy on the criteria for moving up the ladder in this tourney. Will we all play 3 matches then the top 4 players go on to the semi-qualifers? or will the two lowest ranked players be dropped from each 3 match set?

Im sure that unless we all get a shot at round III and a good sized fleet to play with a fair few players will be ... somewhat vexed, to say the least.

I was actualy praying for a nice Rn or Italian build to fight in round three in the vain hope that the air heavy builds would get one more round to whittle themselves down to managable proportions for my four little bf109's!!!!

anyway, it will be a pleasure to play the dark lord of the long-lance Torps in the near future (Cruiser/DD slugfests are my fave matches anyway!)

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So did Musashi Successfully escape?

if she did was she crippled when she left

The Whole Point of the royal rumble fleet Build was to be able to run a Marathon whith only a small pool of Units.  It is not my fault you Built a 400 pt Fleet designed to be used all at once.  If you win this whole tourny, you will probably play between 5-6 games. At 200 pt games, How long do you think your 400 pts would last? my guess is 3 rds at most.
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she got away with three hits from torps for a total or three hull points of damage... not crippled, just wounded pride and scorched paintwork.

All units deployed survived and are fit for next round.
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ok thank you
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So did Musashi Successfully escape?

if she did was she crippled when she left

The Whole Point of the royal rumble fleet Build was to be able to run a Marathon whith only a small pool of Units.  It is not my fault you Built a 400 pt Fleet designed to be used all at once.  If you win this whole tourny, you will probably play between 5-6 games. At 200 pt games, How long do you think your 400 pts would last? my guess is 3 rds at most.


That's interesting because the attrition after two rounds leave some fleets with NONE of their smaller units left so it's not going to be real hard to figure out what anyone will be playing and thus, the strategy is almost nil at this point, we all know what the other has and has left.

Perhaps, next time, at least double the initial points to avoid this kind of thing. 400 isn't enough to balance it all and keep your admiral alive as we were led to believe.

Some nations are able to throw certain units in and not leave them out of balance. Of course, when you throw in a unit and it gets sunk, it's gone for good anyway. That's the whole idea about having a lot of the better units like subs and battleships.  lol
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That's interesting because the attrition after two rounds leave some fleets with NONE of their smaller units left so it's not going to be real hard to figure out what anyone will be playing and thus, the strategy is almost nil at this point, we all know what the other has and has left.


Thats where the Strategy comes in. Logistics of the whole thing. Did I bring enough Supporting Cast for my Big Guns.

@ 50 pts, you can Field, Kongo, Scharnhorst, Gulio Ceasre, Hood, and Warspite. So you BB lovers could still take one.
@75 you can field all of the BB's I believe.

The Smaller Pt Matches is where your Fleet Construction Shines, and How well it Compliments each other.

You are correct, at some point you will be able to figure out what they Bring, thats their Problem, Not yours.
Playing this way gives WaS a different view on how to play. And Forces people to play more Cautiously with their Units. It is no longer a Straight Dash for the Objectives. Now one Must Ask them selves, How Badly do I want to Commit my units, Especially the ones I would like to Keep for Future rds.



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Perhaps, next time, at least double the initial points to avoid this kind of thing. 400 isn't enough to balance it all and keep your admiral alive as we were led to believe.


There are 2 Admirals Participating in rd 2 that I know of.

This is the first tourney I have ever run. I am Learning as I go.
I could use another More Active Moderator in this Sub Forum WSML
Help would be nice, I work 3 Different Jobs, and None of them are Drinking both drunk

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Some nations are able to throw certain units in and not leave them out of balance. Of course, when you throw in a unit and it gets sunk, it's gone for good anyway. That's the whole idea about having a lot of the better units like subs and battleships.  lol


I don't get what you mean here. It all falls back on Fleet Construction.
Next time I will try to be a Little More Specific on how the Whole thing Plays out. I have been trying to get this thing going since May, And I admit it was a little frustrating seeing the Lack of enthusiasm from the Community. And the few that were signed up were tired of Waiting, so Bang It started.

My Fleet only has 1 BB in it. Thats it. All the rest is Supporting Cast. Now I must figure out the Best way to use them. And it is not looking good.
Looking back I would have choosen Differently Myself. O well

Keep your Chin up, and Make best of your Situation. We all have to.
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Gross Admiral Raider..

Your doing fine old chap, Its a case of grumbles after the fact... I guess a lot of folks just didnt expect this formular and are now on a learning curve they didnt expect... Next time, we will all know and build accordingly.

god knows i have been lucky so far and have all my ships... but Had I known the formular i would have left Bismarck at home and loaded up on 6 more gasters

Im luckier then most in that I played Germany and could load up on cheap cruisers and subs so I could afford to loose em (also very lucky in that my opponants both withdrew rather then going down in a bloody and high body count blaze of glory.
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only point of critism was that we do not know how small the first battles would be (i assume 1oo pointer and above and on that level you can build other fleets from my pool than fleets for an 50 pointer or an 75 pointer)

another point what about an 75 point match if I sink all opponents surface and grab both objectives worth 35 points each but the surface units I sunk are only 26 points worth, the rest were three subs and two bf 109, without ASW or own subs its impossible to reach the 1oo point limit to win, what happens in this case then? the official rules from the WAS claims that I pull out an victory then.


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