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WaS units used in the South Pacific (WIP)

WaS units used in the South Pacific Theatre. Units in (parenthesis) are Fourumini Navies units. Work in Progress



Koh Chang, 1941
Dutch East Indies campaign, 1941–42
   Battle of Badung Strait 19–20 February 1942
   Battle of the Java Sea 27 February 1942
   Battle of Sunda Strait 28 February – 1 March 1942
   Second Battle of the Java Sea 1 March 1942
Guadalcanal Campaign 1942–43
   Battle of Savo Island 9 August 1942
   Battle of the Eastern Solomons 24–25 August 1942
   Battle of Cape Esperance 11–12 October 1942
   Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands 26 October 1942
   Naval Battle of Guadalcanal 12–15 November 1942
   Battle of Tassafaronga 30 November 1942
Solomon Islands campaign 1943–45
   Battle of Kula Gulf 6 July 1943
   Battle of Kolombangara 13 July 1943
   Battle of Vella Gulf 6–7 August 1943
   Naval Battle of Vella Lavella 6–7 October 1943
   Battle of Empress Augusta Bay 2 November 1943
   Battle of Cape St. George 25 November 1943
New Guinea campaign, 1942–45
   Battle of the Coral Sea 4–8 May 1942
   Kokoda Track campaign 1942
   Battle of Buna-Gona 1942
   Battle of the Bismarck Sea 2 March 1943
   Landing at Nassau Bay 1943
   Salamaua-Lae campaign 1943
   Huon Peninsula campaign 1943
   New Britain campaign 26 December 1943
   Admiralty Islands campaign 29 February 1944
   Aitape-Wewak campaign 22 April 1944
   Invasion of Hollandia 22 April 1944
   Battle of Biak 27 May 1944
   Battle of Noemfoor 2 July 1944
   Battle of Morotai 15 September 1944
Battle of Timor 1942–43
Philippines campaign (1944–45)
   Battle of Leyte Gulf 20 October 1944 (Palawan Passage, Sibuyean Sea, San Bernardino Strait, Suriago Strait, Samar, Cape Engano)
Borneo campaign (1945)

France:
Cruisers:
Lamotte-Picquet - Battle of Koh Chang

UK:
Battleships:
HMS Prince Of Wales - Force Z
HMS Repulse - Force Z
Cruisers:
HMS Exeter - Java Sea
(HMS Maritus) - Singapore/Force Z
ORP Dragon, (HMS Danae, HMS Durban) - Singapore/Force Z
Destroyers:
(E/F-Class DD) - Force Z, Java Sea
J/K/N-Class DD (HMS Javelin, HMAS Nizam, Van Galen) - Java Sea
(1916 S-Class DD) - Force Z, Java Sea
(S/T-Class DD) - Force Z, Java Sea
Aircraft:
Buffalo - Force Z

Australia:
Cruisers:
HMAS Australia - Coral Sea, Savo Island
HMAS Canberra - Savo Island
HMAS Sydney, (HMAS Perth, HMAS Hobart) - Singapore, Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Coral Sea, Kormoran, Savo Island
Destroyers:
(U/V-Class DD) - Force Z
Aircraft:
Beaufighter - Bismarck Sea
(Beaufort) - Bismarck Sea
(Boston) - Bismarck Sea

New Zealand:

Canada:

Dutch:
Cruisers:
De Ruyter - Badung Strait, Java Sea
(Java) - Badung Strait, Java Sea
(Tromp) - Badung Strait
Destroyers:
Admiralen-Class DD (Witte de With) - Badung Strait, Java Sea, Sunda Strait
Others:
(TM Class MTB) - Badung Strait
Aircraft
Buffalo - Java Sea

United States:
Carriers:
(USS Langley) - Java Sea
USS Lexington - Coral Sea
USS Saratoga - Eastern Solomons
USS Enterprise - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
USS Yorktown - Coral Sea
(USS Hornet) - Santa Cruz
USS Wasp - Eastern Solomons
(USS Tangier) - Coral Sea
Battleships:
(USS South Dakota) - Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
USS North Carolina - Eastern Solomons
USS Washington - Guadalcanal
Cruisers:
(USS Portland) - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
USS San Francisco, (USS Minneapolis, USS New Orleans, USS Astoria, USS Vincennes, USS Quincy) - Coral Sea, Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance, Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga
USS Houston, (USS Chester, USS Chicago, USS Northampton) - Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Coral Sea, Savo Island, Santa Cruz, Tassafaronga
USS Salt Lake City, (USS Pensacola) - Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance, Santa Cruz, Tassafaronga
USS Cleveland, USS Montpelier, (USS Denver) - Blackett Strait
USS Atlanta, USS San Diego, (USS San Juan, USS Juneau) - Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
USS Boise, (USS Honolulu) - Cape Esperance, Tassafaronga, Rice
(USS St. Louis, USS Helena) - Cape Esperance, Guadalcanal, Rice
Destroyers:
Bagley-Class (USS Bagley) - TF44, Savo Island
(Benham-Class DD) - Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
(Benson-Class DD) - Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
Clemson-Class DD (USS Edsall) - Badung Strait, Java Sea, Coral Sea
(Farragut-Class DD) - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons
Fletcher-Class DD (USS Fletcher) - Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga
(Gleaves-Class DD) - Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance, Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga
(Mahan-Class DD) - Coral Sea, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga
Porter-Class DD (USS Phelps) - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
(Sims-Class DD) - Coral Sea, Santa Cruz
Others:
(Fleet Oiler) - Java Sea
PT Boat - Bismarck Sea
Aircraft:
(A-20) - Bismarck Sea
(B-17) - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
B-25 - Bismarck Sea
(B-26) - Santa Cruz
F4F Wildcat - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
(Hudson) - Santa Cruz
PBY Catalina - Java Sea, Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
(P-38 Lightning) - Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
(P400/P39) - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
P-40 - Bismarck Sea
(OS2U Kingfisher) - Santa Cruz
SBD Dauntless - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
TBD Devestator - Coral Sea
TBF Avenger - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
TBF1 Avenger - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz

Japan:
Carriers:
Shokaku - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
Zuikaku - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
Junyo - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
(Ryujo) - Eastern Solomons
Shoho, (Zuiho) - Coral Sea, Santa Cruz
(Taiyo) - Eastern Solomons
Battleships:
Yamato - Eastern Solomons
(Mutsu) - Eastern Solomons
Kongo, Haruna, Kirishima, (Hiei) - Java Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
Cruisers:
Chikuma, Tone - Java Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
Aoba, (Kinugasa) - Coral Sea, Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance
(Kako, Furutaka) - Coral Sea, Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance
Atago, (Takao, Maya, Chokai) - Java Sea, Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
Myoko, Nachi, Haguro - Java Sea, Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
Suzuya, (Mikuma, Mogami, Kumano) - Sunda Strait, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
Jintsu, (Naka, Sendai) - Java Sea, Eastern Solomons, Guadalcanal
(Natori) - Sunda Strait
(Yubari) - Coral Sea, Savo Island
(Nagara, Yura) - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
(Tsugaru) - Coral Sea
(Tenryu, Tatsuta) - Coral Sea, Savo Island
Destroyers:
Akisuki Class DD (Akitsuki) - Savo Island, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
(Asashio Class DD) - Badung Strait, Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
(Fubuki-Class DD) - Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Cape Esperance, Santa Cruz
(Hatsuharu-Class DD) - Java Sea
Kagero-Class DD (Yukikaze, Isokaze) - Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga, Bismarck Sea
(Kamikaze-Class DD) - Coral Sea, Savo Island, Eastern Solomons
Mutsuki-Class DD (Nagatsuki) - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons
Shiratsuyu-Class DD (Murasame, Shigure) - Java Sea, Sunda Strait, Java Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal
(Yugomo-Class DD) - Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal, Tassafaronga
Submarines:
(I-9) - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
I-19, I-25, I-26 - Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
(I-100 type) - Santa Cruz
Ro-Class - Eastern Solomons
Others:
Chitose - Eastern Solomons
Kinai Maru - Milne Bay, Truk, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
(Okinoshima) - Coral Sea
Aircraft:
(A5M Claude) - Coral Sea
A6M2 Zeke - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz, Bismarck Sea
(A6M3 Hamp) - Bismarck Sea
B5N2 Kate - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
D3A Val - Coral Sea, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz
D4Y1 Judy - Santa Cruz
(E13A Jake) - Eastern Solomons
(F1M Pete) - Eastern Solomons
G4M Betty, G4M1 - Force Z, Eastern Solomons
(H6K Mavis) - Eastern Solomons
H8K Emily - Eastern Solomons
(J1N1 Irving) - Eastern Solomons
(Ki43 Oscar) - Bismarck Sea

Germany:
Atlantis - Kormoran
NeuralDream

Greece:
Georgios Averoff
P71

NeuralDream wrote:
Greece:
Georgios Averoff


Indian Ocean only, not in our Theatre of Operations. Thanks though!
NeuralDream

I was under the impression you also covered the Indian Ocean. Nevermind.
P71

Nope, just Singapore. The Indian Ocean battles are reserved for a future Club Ceylon (who would also hopefully cover Suez/Alexandria and the Black Sea).
NeuralDream

Sounds good.
torpman

Every single American and Japanese unit because they all fought here Rolling Eyes
Diamondback

For Asashio, use Yukikaze/Isokaze--they're negligibly different, slightly-stretched-and-evolved versions.
P71

torpman wrote:
Every single American and Japanese unit because they all fought here Rolling Eyes


Yup. Y'all are going to have to wave good-bye to our fleet restrictions under ND's new rules, we're going to get pretty much everything. It was the most battled-area of the war at sea...
sublime828

You can still keep your Japanese carrier restrictions....that was one of the main points of your club that I really thought was cool, to represent the IJN forces after midway.  I think that gives your IJN fleets a distinct difference by limiting their air power (for witch it never was the same after midway anyway).  And forcing your players to build better surface fleets.

Really I don't see how your fleets are going to change very much at all?  Your UK Fleet is pretty much spot on. After Germany's surrender, the British sent most of their home fleet to the Pacific and you outlined those units very well in your original fleet restrictions.  The ony US unit you have out is Arizona.....which is fine.  It looks like your restrictions are perfectly fine.
sublime828

what do you guys think of the new carrier taiho?  Sank at the B of  the Philippine Sea did it ever have any other operations or was that it?
P71

sublime828 wrote:
what do you guys think of the new carrier taiho?  Sank at the B of  the Philippine Sea did it ever have any other operations or was that it?


Well true, she only fought in the Central Pacific, but she was stationed in Singapore and Sumatra, both in our Ops area, which under ND's rules allows her. Not to mention that ship more readily defines the "build" we were after then any other.

I'm thinking we'll still restrict the big 3 (Agaki, Kaga, Soryu) just to keep the flavor.
sublime828

True that....Im pretty excited to get ahold of a taiho when the new set comes out.  Looks to be a good little unit.

sub out!
Vergilius

sublime828 wrote:
You can still keep your Japanese carrier restrictions....that was one of the main points of your club that I really thought was cool, to represent the IJN forces after midway.  I think that gives your IJN fleets a distinct difference by limiting their air power (for witch it never was the same after midway anyway).  And forcing your players to build better surface fleets.


One interesting thought on that subject is that part of the motivation behind the limitations was the idea that we needed something to keep us distinct and original from the original Club IJN.  But since national and multinational clubs no longer compete against one another, there's really no need for the extra flavor.  And somehow I don't think someone is going to come along and make the generic "Club Pacific" that would really use all units involved in the Pacific, so that would leave a hole for anyone wishing to play IJN units throughout the war in a multinational club format.
sublime828

Vergilius wrote:
sublime828 wrote:
You can still keep your Japanese carrier restrictions....that was one of the main points of your club that I really thought was cool, to represent the IJN forces after midway.  I think that gives your IJN fleets a distinct difference by limiting their air power (for witch it never was the same after midway anyway).  And forcing your players to build better surface fleets.


One interesting thought on that subject is that part of the motivation behind the limitations was the idea that we needed something to keep us distinct and original from the original Club IJN.  But since national and multinational clubs no longer compete against one another, there's really no need for the extra flavor.  And somehow I don't think someone is going to come along and make the generic "Club Pacific" that would really use all units involved in the Pacific, so that would leave a hole for anyone wishing to play IJN units throughout the war in a multinational club format.


It's still important to have that flavor in your club otherwise what is the point. technically we are no longer "multi-national" clubs anyway...we are "theater of operations" clubs.  You are taking the South Pacific theater as the theater your club represents and it is understandable that the big three would be excluded from the available units because they did not participate in the south pacific theater.  Flavor and build options are what the theater clubs offer and theater clubs should have something unique to set them apart from the other clubs.  We need to stop throwing rocks at the hornets nest and continue on the positive path that we are on.  Things are moving along quite nicely, there is no need to regress this situation any further.
Vergilius

sublime828 wrote:
We need to stop throwing rocks at the hornets nest and continue on the positive path that we are on.  Things are moving along quite nicely, there is no need to regress this situation any further.


I don't believe any post qualifies as throwing rocks at a hornet's nest in this thread.  In fact, I'm a little taken aback that you'd attempt to shut down reasoned discussion.

The Clubhouse has undergone a transformation in recent weeks, and under a new set of competitive structures and rules, it is fair to reevaluate some questions that were pretty reasonably settled just 2 weeks ago.
sublime828

Sorry to upset you but we are trying to move forward.  Since you really haven't been active in the last few days you wouldn't have known that the multi-national clubs are being restructured as "theater clubs" and now need to include only the units that operated in that theater. The main reason the big 3 were excluded in the first place was because they didn't operate in the South Pacific since they were lost at Midway.
Vergilius

sublime828 wrote:
Sorry to upset you but we are trying to move forward.  Since you really haven't been active in the last few days you wouldn't have known that the multi-national clubs are being restructured as "theater clubs" and now need to include only the units that operated in that theater. The main reason the big 3 were excluded in the first place was because they didn't operate in the South Pacific since they were lost at Midway.


"Activity" has nothing to do with it.   I've been on the board reading and posting in various places but I don't exactly stop by the clubhouse, read every last post and comment on every thread only to repeat 2 hours later.  For my part, I aimed mainly to let the powers at be sort out how they wanted to do the clubhouse without butting-in. So I am familiar with the general direction of the restructuring even if I got the official terminology wrong.  Keep in mind some of the discussion and resolution has been behind closed doors and not in the public eye, so I'd be justifiably ignorant of those proceedings.  Beyond that the posts in this forum are fairly disorganized, it took well over an hour to locate "a" post of ND explaining some of his rules.  Notice I didn't find something that I would call "the" post, just a post that explains the allusions that P71 makes earlier in the thread.

The previous discussion already established that they did "operate" in the So Pac for a few weeks even though no major battles were fought using them.  P71 decided to slice against them initially because of the "no battles."  In any case, this should be something for the club itself to work out.
Bull Halsey

good work P71!
P71

Yeah, I'm not sure what to do yet. On the one hand, I really like the fleet "builds" we came up with, but on the other hand we'll like double our available units with the new Clubhouse rules. I mean, who wouldn't want to use Richelieu?
sublime828

I like your original builds as well and they already fit the theater club guidelines.  Our (CFS) standpoint is to focus on the major players in our theater and to keep the focus on what we originally intended our club to be.  CFS could easily include of variety of USN units (washington among them), and a few French(dunkerque among them) units into the mix......but we are choosing not to because it doesn't really meet what our original expectations for CFS were.  You can add whatever units you want to but I don't think ND was looking for us to add every single unit that went to that theater.  I think he just wanted us to break down what we had already established and look at what units our existing nations used.  I know he opened up the doors to let every unit that ever sailed in the theaters waters on to the table but I think he also thought that we would  stay within the boundaries of the countries that we already chose to represent.
P71

Updated through Sunda Strait.
P71

Updated through Coral Sea
P71

http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob...acific/index_OOB_WWII_Pacific.htm

Complete Pacific Order of Battles.
P71

Added Eastern Solomons and Cape Esperance.
P71

Updated with Santa Cruz, Guadalcanal, and Tassafaronga.
P71

Added Bismarck Sea.

I think Brigman's way might have been easier (just do each WaS ship and name at least one action in theatre). :/
Brigman

I tried to make it for ease of reference, honestly, hence the formatting.  Didn't want to have to do a lot of searching to just find a "yes" or "no"...
P71

Yeah, I think I'm going to re-format or start over. I've barely gotten into '43 and it's already a mess.

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