Russians vs Americans

Thuddeus · Russians vs Americans

My buddy is tired of having his German's lose to my Americans, so we played Americans vs. Russians. He still lost.

I had

Pershing
Sherman Commander
Sherman x2
P-51
Paratroops x2
Para Commander
Rangers x2
Untested Recruits x2

199
vs.

KV-1 x2
T-34/85
Snipers x2
Sturmovik
Hero
Ammo Dump
Grenadier
PPsh x2
Maxim x2
Observer
82mm Mortar x2
Cossack Captain

202

I was on defense. His Sturmovik faced my Paratroop that had dropped to kill the Ammo Dump. I dropped in my P-51 to wax his plane, but I got the waxing. 6 hits from the IL-10. I did not cry foul, though I wanted to.

The rest of the game was dominated by his Sturmovik (I love that plane) and my Pershing. The IL-10 slowly whittled away at my forces while my Pershing slowly destroyed his armor.

The game ended at 10 turns with my Pershing roosting on the objective and his helpless infantry (Maxim, Sniper, Mortar and a few other units ineffective against my tank) beating on the dirt and gnashing their teeth.

The Americans can't seem to lose. Is the American bias really that strong?

We tried to think of a Russian build that could defeat this Pershing/ Sherman army, and only came up with multiple IS-2s. Since neither of us has an IS-3, that was moot. Any suggestions?

pushkintank

I think both the American build and the Soviet build look very strong.
However, when you say you were on defense do you mean that was the way you played or what that how the scenario was set up.
I ask because it is usually easier to defend that assault. One needs at least a 3 to 1 advantage to have any chance at an assault and 10 to 1 to succeed.
When we play assault/defend, we give the attacker a 2:1 advantace in army build points.
Perhaps the Soviet build your friend tried might have a better chance at a take the objective in the middle game; or perhaps try it with the Soviets on defense?

I would axe both snipers and the sturmovik (maybe the ammo dump too)and add more Russian infantry, like Mosin Nagants and a Commisar. I've been reading in these forums that the russian mob with scads of infantry are very successful contesting and found that it is very true! (the Russian build your buddy tried looks like the mirror of a US build. If one plays Soviet, build soviet!) Go Roooskies!

Just suggestions. I have a Russian bias, if you haven't already noticed. Wink

Thuddeus

By "defense," I simply mean that the objective was skewed to my side of the map. Since I reached it first, I had the easier job of holding it.

I've never used an infantry rush army. Neither has my friend. After checking out the Mosin-Nagant stats. They are clearly nasty when paired with a Commisar's Bravery Enforcement. He will hate it when I spring that on him. A couple of those could easily take out almost any defense they faced.