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| Sindor |
RUS/POL Poland 1939 (3)Here you can find the map and details:Armies 50 pts, 1 rare, deployment zone 2 hexes from the shorter side of the map.  Errata: Soviet heavy tanks and lend-lease units banned in this map. Russians may use Fanatical sniper.
Tips for beginners - POLAND: Do not forget you may use some french units (where indicated), Addons commanders or Schwarzlose HMG. British Bofors was also used in wojsko polskie. You have also one aircraft in Set 6 ... - SOVIET UNION: BA-10 is an uncommon. Map: Iron Horse * Use classic skirmish battle (objective = center). Special: None. 
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| PeterGol |
Hi,
i've a couple questions to Sindor. what do you mean with lend-lease units? (sorry, i don't understand the term). And about the tanks... which of the following are specifically heavy tanks, and in consequence i cannot play with? - T26 - BT7 - BA10 M - T35 Thank you. Good luck, Karpovian 
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| Sindor |
Lend-lease vehicles were supplied by Britain and USA to Soviet Union. But not before 1941. Heavy russian tanks are KV-1, KV-2 and T35. None of them were present in Poland. |
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| PeterGol |
So, this means i don't have the Universal Carrier available, for example? |
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| PeterGol |
Army sent to Sindor. | ||||||
| Sindor |
Yes, for example. |
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| Sindor |
With some delay, we can start here 
oficer Karpowianski 1x Boffers 11 1x Renault R-35 8 2x Cavalry 8 2x Browning LMG 8 3x Determined Infantryman 12 1x Polish Mauser 3 Commisar Peter Gol 2 x Soviet Grenadiers 1 x BA10M 1 Fanatical Sniper 2 x Degtyarev DP-27 2 x Maxim 7,62mm and 2 x AI Mines (= 2x3 counters deployed secretly, I will be informed where is the real mine and where "fakes"; optionally, if both sides agree, you may send me only the position of mines, without using any indicators) |
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| karpovian |
Army sent!
Good luck, and an enjoyable game to you! |
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| PeterGol |
The same to you Karpovian. I will deploy first this way: 
I've sent Sindor the location of the non-fake mines. After you deploy your forces we can begin rolling for initiative. [/img] |
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| PeterGol |
I don't know why the pic looks mall... let's try other way:
[img=http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/9710f44239.png] |
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| PeterGol |
Damn 
don't know how to post the image with the original size, think i need some help 
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| karpovian |
Ok,
Let me see if I got this right.. You have Grenadiers in B1 and B4 DP-27 in B4 and B5 Sniper in B1 BA10 in B3 Maxim in B5 and B2 Is that correct? My deployment Browning in J1 and J4 Mauser in K4 Det Infantry in J1 and J4 Renault in J6 2x Cavalry in J7 If thats all correct.. Init roll Rolls: (2d6)  
re-roll if needed Rolls: (2d6)  
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| Sindor |
Save it on Photobucket server or on any ftp space - simply copy it from your disk to that web domain. This one looks like a preview or icon. |
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| PeterGol |
Yeah, my deployment was like you said, it's ok... oh, remember there are minefields at g5,g6,g7,h5,h6 & h7. Your deployment isn't complete, i don't see the bofors and one of your det infantry!! |
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| PeterGol |
Ok, i'll try to do it this evening, at home (i'm currently at work...  )
Anyway, if Karpovian fix his deployment we can begin now, there´s no problem. |
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| karpovian |
Ack Sorry,
Boffers J2 and Missing Det in K4 |
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| PeterGol |
Ok, think i finally got the scenario map
Rolling for 1st turn initiative Rolls: (2d6)
Re-rolling if necessary Rolls: (2d6)
Karpovian, if you agree, i will roll your units cover when needed, and so do you with mine, to not delay the game... ok? |
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| PeterGol |
You won the initiative... who will go first? | ||||||
| karpovian |
Ill go first, rolling each others cover is fine. | ||||||
| karpovian |
Both units in J1 - I2
Both units in J4 - I5 Both Units in K4 - J4 R-35 H7 Cavalry, Boffers dont move. |
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| PeterGol |
Ok then
Your turn, let's fight 
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| PeterGol |
My movement
Sniper and Maxim A to C2 Grenadier B to c1 BA10 to D3 Degtyarev A to c4 Grenadier A to c5 degtyarev b and maxim b to c6 
Your assault. |
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| Sindor |
Very nice map.
To be fair, I must inform both sides, that only one of each three mines is "active"; the rest are fakes. And, infantry of the player of minefield knows where the mines are, so the are immune on them. |
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| PeterGol |
So you are also immune to them because you know where are located 
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| Sindor |
BTW you don't have images of Maxim HMG and Renault R35? These both are standard units ... but never mind, just asking
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| PeterGol |
No, i don't, sorry  I took the pics posted in this forum by another user (don't remember his name) because they are very easy to use with Adobe photoshop.
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| PeterGol |
Sindor, while we wait for Karpovian assault phase, i have a couple questions for you.
1st I',m not sure to know how works Covering Fire. it says "Instead of attacking in the assault phase..." does this mean that covering fire can be used ONLY in assault phase? 2nd, after this first battle i've to face karpovian again, this time playing allies and him playing axies, but... we will play the same scenario or will re-roll for deploy and scenario selection, like first time? I'd like the second option, but i'm only asking. Whatever you've considered to it's ok for me, of course. |
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| karpovian |
R-35 Q7, Rest stay. I dont think I can shoot at anyone. | ||||||
| PeterGol |
Ok then, my assault. BA10 moves to D1 Degtyarev B and maxim B move to D5 Degtyarev A and maxim A move to D4 The other grenadier keep position. And now the shoots: Fanatical sniper shoots Determined Infantrymen at I5 Rolls: (4d6)  w/ +1 (crack shot)
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| PeterGol |
Maxim near to the sniper first shoot to the same infantrymen at I5
Rolls: (6d6) 
Cover if necessary Rolls: (1d6) saves with 4
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| PeterGol |
Second shoot to the same unit (the infantrymen at I5)
Rolls: (6d6)
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6)
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| PeterGol |
Summary
- Det infantrymen at I5 is disrupted. 
Turn 2 begins, rolling for initiative Rolls: (2d6)
Re-roll if needed Rolls: (2d6)
If I win I'll go first |
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| Sindor |
1st: Covering fire works in the assault phase. It allows you to disrupt immediately some unit, which can be finished by someone else. Useful when you statistically expect that the enemy will not be destroyed (but I am using it rarely; this still waits on some brilliant idea to be reworked - original SA is IMHO too strong). 2nd: Yes, second option is correct. Another map. You may not choose the same as now (it was written somewhere before). |
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| PeterGol |
Ok, thank you very much! Taking advantage of you're here, i have another question not regarding to the rules but an unit: the sd kfz 303 Goliath (set 5)... it says that can choose an enemy unit at range 4 or less... but doesn't mention if must have LOS to it... i wonder if it works w/o LOS to the enemy unit?? |
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| Sindor |
With LOS, I have omitted this information. It is a guided mine, therefore you have to see where you guide it. Never used it myself, too unpredictable. |
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| PeterGol |
Ok. Yes, due to its unpredictability i am not sure if it's worth it... thank you. |
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| karpovian |
Init Rolls:
Rolls: (2d6)
If needed Rolls: (2d6)
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| karpovian |
Ill move First..
Cav - to H7 - Lets see if its a mine.. R35 Q5 I2 Group - H2 Determined Infantryman I5 H5 - More mine sweeping.. |
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| PeterGol |
Determined infantri at i5 is disrupted, cannot move... do you mean the browning at i5 goes to h5? Your units at J4 don't move then? |
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| PeterGol |
Hey karpovian, are you there?
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| Sindor |
Sorry for the mines: Westen has reminded me, that the mines are not polish
The mines deployment zone is 4 hexes max. from your own deployment zone. They are defensive weapons, not offensive ! Ask Karpovian if he accepts the current situation. |
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| PeterGol |
I thought it only applies to the barbed wire, since in the mines stat card it says nothing about it. 
I have no problem to change position if Karpovian doesn't accept the situation. I disagree with this rule in one thing. IMO, mines, barbed wires, etc, shouldn't be allowed adjacent to the objective hex.
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| Westentaschenschlachti |
I'm sorry Peter I just wanted to ask what are the current rules for mines, because i had the idea to use them for myself. They were used differently in the Fin/Rus game. Didnt want to disturb this game....
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| PeterGol |
Don't worry at all, the rules are the same for everyone of us, and of course I accept them. I didn't know that my mines weren't correctly deployed. Doesn't matter.
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| Sindor |
And I forgot which side these mines belong to
Anyway, all obstacles and fortifications follow the same rule - they cannot be deployed in opponent's area (therefore the limit of 6 hexes from one side). Deployment around objectives occurs in the defensive scenarios, which you might encounter in semi-finals
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| karpovian |
My apologies, I got sent out of town last minute. Im getting caught up here.. | ||||||
| karpovian |
Determained Infrantyman - He is disrupted and does not move. My fault for not implementing disrupted counters in my Vassel Mod yet. J4 group does not move.
Mines - Lets keep them where they are and press on. Im more for learning, and I hope not to cause delays any more 
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| Sindor |
Look, on 3 hits (= 50%) the mine will disrupt an infantry. On 3x "6" (unprobable) it will be destroyed. In both cases, the mine is removed. That's why these things cost 1 pt only
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| PeterGol |
Ok, my movement
BA10 goes to C2 and Sniper to D1 Everyone else stays put. Your Cavalrymen at H7 found one of the real mines, so I roll 6 dice... usually in our games we roll for every unit inside the minefield... i don't know if this is right, so i will roll for both your units, and wait for Sindor to decide if it's ok. Mine for cavalrymen A Rolls: (6d6)
Mine for cavalrymen B Rolls: (6d6)
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| PeterGol |
Ok, both cavalrymen face up disrupted because of the minefield.
Situation afther movement phase 
It's your assault phase.
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| Sindor |
You really give me a hard time Yes, if they enter in the same turn, they are both affected. After this, remove the mine from the battlefield.
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| PeterGol |
As i wait for karpovian assault phase I've updated the scenario map to add correct unit pics for cavalryman, maxim 7,62mm and R35...
Unfortunately i didn't found any good pic for the browning LMG 
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| karpovian |
I believe with the sniper in cover, no attacks can be made.
I5 Browning to H5. J4 determined infantryman to I5. |
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| PeterGol |
Yes, you're right about the sniper, can only be atacked at close range. I am assuming everyone else of your forces stays put. H5 mines were fake ones, so great notice for the browning
Degtyarev at D5 tries covering fire over brownig at H5: Rolls: (6d6) with 4 successes puts a face up disrupt counter on it.
Maxim at D5 fires twice to the browning at H5 Rolls: (7d6) first shoot
Rolls: (7d6) second shoot
fanatical sniper fires one of the disrupted cavalryman at long range Rolls: (4d6)
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| PeterGol |
The both, browning and cavalrymen need cover rolls for save
Browning Rolls: (1d6) saves with 5+ (medium range)
Cavalryman Rolls: (1d6) 4+ to save
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| PeterGol |
Maxim at C2 fires twice over the disrupted infantrymen at I5
first shoot Rolls: (6d6)
second shoot Rolls: (6d6)
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6) 4+
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| PeterGol |
Sorry, I would have rolled two times for cover. cover for the second shoot [die=1d6] saves with 4+ |
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| PeterGol |
damn, i'm stupid 
i meant Rolls: (1d6) saves with 4+
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| PeterGol |
ba10m shoots at determined infantrymen that moved to I5
Rolls: (6d6)
cover if needed Rolls: (1d6) 4+
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| PeterGol |
Ok, ba10 has strike and fade, it moves to E5 (strike and fade 2 + high gear 2 + 1 per road)
Soviet grenadier moves also to E5. Everyone else, stays put. Summary: 1 cavalrymen disrupted. Determined infantryman at I5 dead. Browning at h5 dead |
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| PeterGol |
roll for initiative Rolls: (2d6)
if I win you go first |
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| karpovian |
Init
Rolls: (2d6)
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| karpovian |
R-35 Q3 (Facing F3)
I5 - I6 J5- J5 Rest stay put. |
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| PeterGol |
Ok, I suppose you mean J4 --> J5 My movement Maxim C2 - B2 Grenadier E5 - D4 BA10 moves to B2 
Your assault? |
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| karpovian |
R-35 to F1
Your Assault. |
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| PeterGol |
OK.
The sniper fires at the disrupted cavalryman Rolls: (4d6) w/ crack shot
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6)
Grenadier at C1 joins the sniper at D1. Grenadier and Browning at D4 move to E5. Ba10M fires Browning at H2 and move to D4. Rolls: (6d6)
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6)
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| PeterGol |
Wow powerful Ba10, and damn immortal cavalryman
Well... the Maxim close to the Ba10 fires twice Determined Infantrymen at H2 Rolls: (6d6)
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6)
Rolls: (6d6)
Cover if needed Rolls: (1d6)
Everyone else stays put. |
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| PeterGol |
Summary:
Browning at H2 dead Determined Infantryman at H2 disrupted 
Roll for initiative turn 3 (or was it 4? I lost the count... )
Rolls: (2d6)
Re-roll if needed Rolls: (2d6)
If I win I'll go first |
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| PeterGol |
Apologies, the cavalryman A is still disrupted because of the sniper's shoot (3 successes).
I update the scenario map with current situation: 
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| PeterGol |
Forgive me, I said this was third turn and it's wrong. Actually we're at the beggining of fourth turn..
You've to roll for 4th turn initiative Karpovian
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| karpovian |
I apologise, Im going to have to resign. I have been unable to keep up, real life has been interferring (part of which is that Im going to be a father!) and I feel bad about how long this has already taken.
Good luck with the tournament, I hope to follow the results as well as learn the system a bit better. |
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| Sindor |
Ok, it's a pity you cannot continue ...
PeterGol wins and goes to semi-finals. His opponent will be The Mighty A, as he finished first. I will post semi-final maps soon. I strongly reccomend to all players to find common playing times - these games might have been finished in half an hour on internet, not in four weeks
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| PeterGol |
Yeah, it's a pity
I was enjoying the game, would like to win in a better way. Waiting for your commands Sindor.
About common playing times... it's difficult to manage considering there's a whole ocean between us, hehe but will try, of course.
Karpovian, congrats!! Being father seems to me a little bit important than defeat a Spaniard guy in a silly WWII minis game, lol (but hey, just a little). My best wishes. |