NeuralDream
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Round 3: `Gross Admiral Raeder' (WON) Vs. swarbs (lost) 
Time for your semi-finals match.
The map is the same. The new limit is 150 pts. Each of the three objectives is for 50 pts and you win at 150 pts.
We play historical limits and each ground-base can hold 6 aircraft.
swarbs
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1x Ark Royal
8x Javelin
5x Swordfish
4x Hurricane
`Gross Admiral Raeder'
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1x Bismark
3x Koln
8x Karl Galster
The map for round 3:
Send me your fleets gentlemen  .
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Aquarius
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This should be interesting.
U-Boat expert -vs- Destroyer Expert
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swarbs
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PM sent with fleet build, can't wait
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I will Post My fleet tonite. For now, I am on my way to work
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swarbs
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| Gross Admiral Raeder wrote: | | I will Post My fleet tonite. For now, I am on my way to work |
Oh no, work on the weekend. I usually work for the weekend, but this weekend I have some essays to grade for class so I'm a bit busy too.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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what do you teach?
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swarbs
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I'm just a grad student, but they let me teach the first half of the American history seminar to one set of students. I'm learning just as much as I'm teaching at this point I think, but it's good experience.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Ahh History, My Favorite.
High School?
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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OK What should I bring to kill 150pts worth of Truculents and Javs? 
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EvilKobra
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Kondors and U-boats!
Plus a Graf Spee or two to blow up anything that threatens the objectives.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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No Planes I think, 3 Hurricanes will thwart that idea real fast I think.
I Wish I could field More then 3 Kolns. I would take like 6 of them.
Well His last 2 Fleets were basically the same. lotsa Javs and Truculents.
My build I think will reflect that. If he Changes Up, I may be in Trouble.
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swarbs
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Originally, I was thinking I'd take an all auxilliery fleet, but the Brits don't have a transport, so I was thwarted in that objective. Then I was thinking an all Exeter fleet, cruisers rock, but they have a historical limit...
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NeuralDream
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Urm, shouldn't you be discussing about it after both players have sent their fleets? 
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swarbs
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| NeuralDream wrote: | | Urm, shouldn't you be discussing about it after both players have sent their fleets? |
I guess you're right, my previous post was designed to be so rediculous as to be out of the question, but yeah, needless to say I can, in actuallity, neither confirm nor deny the presence of a baker's dozen of Exeters in my build, nor will I comment on the possible presence of the Habukkuk ice carrier
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Fleet Pmd
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I am a Little scared right Now 
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NeuralDream
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Good luck gentlemen.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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This will be fun
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swarbs
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Here's two dice to set up, can I recommend winner goes second?
Rolls: (2d6)  
reroll
Rolls: (2d6)  
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Aquarius
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Jeez, everyone is stealing my Bismarck + Galsters idea!!!
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swarbs
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| Aquarius wrote: | | Jeez, everyone is stealing my Bismarck + Galsters idea!!! |
I wish he hadn't, I was really hoping to have some U-boats to depth charge with my Swordfish. I should have stuck with Truculents and Javelins, oh well, tally ho!
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Masterchief
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Go swarbs, tin-cans in the finals!
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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set up rolls
Rolls: (2d6)
reroll if needed
Rolls: (2d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I will set up 2nd
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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| Masterchief wrote: | | Go swarbs, tin-cans in the finals! |
Not if I can Help it
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swarbs
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Ark Royal (three fish) in F1.
Rest of aircraft at land base.
Jav 1 and Jav 2 in E1
Jav 3 and Jav 4 in G1
Jav 5 and Jav 6 in H1
Jav 7 and Jav 8 in I1
Here is roll for first turn initiative, I'll have no bonuses the whole match.
Rolls: (2d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Here We Go
Koln, Galstor x2 C11
Bismark,Koln Galstor D11
Galstor x3E11
Koln, Galstor x2 F11
Initiative
Rolls: (2d6) +1
Re roll
Rolls: (2d6) +1
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swarbs
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ok, my move first then, everysingle ship will move up-right two spaces
Jav1,2 D3
Ark E3
Jav3,4 F3
Jav5,6 G3
Jav6,7 H3
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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OK Map Please
All Mine in Same Grouping Straight Forward to row 9 Same Letters
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Whats swordfish Stats
Vital 6?
Armour 4?
2 torps?
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Masterchief
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swarbs
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swarbs
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sorry for white spots, as you can see air placement phase complete, four sea hurricanes attacking the three Galster group, four swordfish attacking the lower Koln/2Galster group, your anti-air, note all hurricanes are strafing and will always be strafing this game (just in case I forget to say it later), also note, on fish stayed home, assigned to airbase, no re-arming counter
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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| Aquarius wrote: | | Jeez, everyone is stealing my Bismarck + Galsters idea!!! |
Honestly, It was the Most Logical way to fight a swarm Of Javs IMO.
I have no fighters, He does, Well No planes then,Mine would be Easy Kills for him and a Huge waste of 36 pts, six Kondors or, 42 pts for six stukas.
His Specialty is Destroyers, and they are really cheap!
Any attempted Sub Warefare is Futile against this fleet. Eventually all your subs will either get 1 die to attack with all the time or it will be dead. Those were the options with using Subs. His Swords are just icing on that cake! 8)
So when Designing my fleet I new he would have alot of Surface vessels and this is no Small Map
The only Option I had was DD's in this regard! 8pts ea. 30 Nordmarks would have been cool, but lame at the same time.
I flirted with lots of combinations between Spees, Scharnhorst, and Bizzy.
I chose Bizzy for its Torp. Defense I would need against all those Javs.
When I hit Submit I was thinking basically his fleet from round 2, modified with Rodney.
and I hope he has No subs.(don't want to lose to my Specialty  )
After I saw his Fleet My first thought was, F'n Sweet, this is going to be a Fun Game, Neither side has a sub.
I wish the Best of luck to My Opponent
Raeder
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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when Strafing your Planes suffer what penalty again?
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swarbs
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minus two to each armor category
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Alright Southern Koln Group At SwordFish each ship seperate terget.
Koln
Rolls: (6d6)  
Galstor#1
Rolls: (5d6)
Galstor #3
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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1 Abort Shitty
Galstor group
#1
Rolls: (5d6)
#2
Rolls: (5d6)
#3
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Ok one Swordfish Aborted
I Believe 3 Canes Aborted? -2-2 to cane stats?
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swarbs
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yep, one swordfish aborted, three canes aborted, here comes the stringbags
expert torpedo s-fish on Koln 3
Rolls: (4d6)
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swarbs
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another fish on Koln
Rolls: (3d6)
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swarbs
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Koln 3 crippled, final swordfish on Galster 7
Rolls: (3d6)
hurricane strafes Galster 4
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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so, Galster 7 sunk, Koln 3 crippled
3 Swordfish return to Ark Royal, the rest of the gang heads for the airbase
initiative for next turn
Rolls: (2d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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my Init.
Rolls: (2d6) +1
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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on you
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swarbs
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your move, in WAS the lowest always goes first, I don't think the rules allow you to choose
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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No you can choose is my Understanding
Northern Koln Grp to C7
Broken Koln and Galstor will move to G8
Galstor trio toF7
Bizzy Grp E7
It's going to get bloody 
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swarbs
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ok, here's my move added on to yours, not much blood yet, my four swordfish are up on the top Koln group, it is your anit-air phase, please note Javelin 1 and Javelin 8 will be laying smoke this turn, this will not effect your shooting (you shoot first), but it will effect next turn's shooting, I'm going to bed now, have fun shooting my swordfish, don't shoot too well
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EvilKobra
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| Gross Admiral Raeder wrote: | | No you can choose is my Understanding |
Your understanding is wrong I'm afraid 
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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where is your move?
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swarbs
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| Gross Admiral Raeder wrote: | | where is your move? |
oooooh crap, sorry, it was really late, I went through all the trouble of making the map and then never posted it, ok, here goes
my bad, if there is a problem, I'll fix it, otherwise you should shoot at my swordfish
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Koln@ Sword
Rolls: (6d6)
Galstor@ sword
Rolls: (5d6)
Galstor@ sword
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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sweet 3 aborted Swords
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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My shooting, will reroll if your sword hits something
Broken koln at Jav 7
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Koln in Northern Group
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Jav 1 is Crip unless you hit me with a torp.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Init.
Rolls: (2d6)
reroll
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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expert swordfish against northern group Koln
Rolls: (4d6)
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swarbs
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Jav 1 is a crip
three swordfish land on Ark, one to airbase
initiative
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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ok then, my move, here I come
Jav1 and Jav2 to C5
Jav7 and Jav8 to F6
Ark to A6
Jav 5 and Jav6 to F5
Jav 3 and 4 to E5
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swarbs
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your move, I'll do the map after you've moved and put my air placement on it, see you tomorrow
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Ark to A6
what? That makes no Sense.
Alright
How does your Smoke work again, Concealment roll?
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I will post My move when I figure out where your Ark is going
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swarbs
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Ark goes to A2, my bad, thanks for calling that one instead of just blowing it up after an illegal move.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Aww, you would have let me shoot at you,
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Northern Koln Group Will move into the same sector as Jav 1+2 C5
Bizzy Group to C6
Crippled Koln and Co. too H7
Galstor trio to F6
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swarbs
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ok, here it is, it looks like the Bismarck group is sheilded from Javs 3 and 4, is this your understanding too? if anything is incorrect, I'll fix it, if everything is ok though, your two flotillas can feel free to shoot at my aircraft
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I was under the Assumption that the Javs could shoot @ Bizzy and Vice versa
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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If they can't see, my movement is not complete.
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swarbs
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Javs 5,6 are definately a clear shot, Javs 3,4 looks pretty close, but I just went to paint and drew a line between there and it looked as if it was a clear shot, just wanted to make sure we were on the same page as far as who could see what. So to reiterate, I'd say Bismarck can see Javs 3, 4.
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swarbs
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Hey, I put up an extra destroyer on the map, Galster 7 was torped the first turn, that's my faulty map-making. It's your AA now, I think, that the line-of-sight issue is worked out.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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ok my Crip Koln
Rolls: (6d6) @-1
Galstor
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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ok 1 Hurricane Aborted
Galstor group
#1
Rolls: (5d6)
#2
Rolls: (5d6)
#3
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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1 Hurricane +
3 swordfish Aborted
Prepares to throw Rudder Left and Right Rapidly
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I smell alot of Smoke and Blood coming up
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swarbs
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Expert Swordfish on Galster 4
Rolls: (4d6)
first Hurricane on Koln
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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Galster 4 sunk
Hurricanes 2 and 3 will strafe
Hurricane 2 on Koln
Rolls: (2d6)
Hirricane 3, go for Koln if still afloat, otherwise for Galster 8
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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so to sum up the air phase results:
Southern Koln (#3) sunk
Galster 8 crippled
Galster 4 sunk
prepare to recieve gunnery
Javelin 8 shoots at crippled Galster 8
Rolls: (4d6)
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swarbs
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Galster 8 sunk
Javelin 8 shoots torps at Galster 5
Rolls: (3d6)
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swarbs
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Javelin 5 shoots guns at Galster 5
Rolls: (5d6)
Javelin 5 shoots torps at Galster 6
Rolls: (3d6)
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swarbs
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Javelin 6 guns at Galster 5
Rolls: (5d6)
Javelin 6 guns at Galster 6
Rolls: (3d6)
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swarbs
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Galster five, one hit, Galster 6 sunk
Javelin 4 fires guns at Galster 5
Rolls: (4d6)
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swarbs
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Galster 5 sunk
Javelin 4 fires torpedoes at Bismark
Rolls: (2d6)
after that Javelin 3 lays smoke, Javelin 7 lays smoke
crippled Javelin 1 shoots guns at Galster 3
Rolls: (5d6) (fours don't count)
and shoots torps at Bismark
Rolls: (2d6)
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swarbs
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Javelin 2 fires guns at Galster 3
Rolls: (5d6)
and torps at Bismark
Rolls: (3d6)
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swarbs
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ok, so I know that was long and split up, but I wanted to make sure I got the most out of it and layed smoke at the correct time,
results, all ships in the two southern groups have face down destroyed counters, Galster 3 will be crippled after this turn
there is smoke in E5 and F6
you asked before, so here is the rundown on smoke, if LOS goes through any portion of a sector with smoke, it is blocked, if you shoot into a sector with smoke I get concealment with a 5,6
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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ok I am sorry I have not done anything in a while. I have been real busy with work and Getting ready to move next week.
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I will do my half tomorrow, ok?
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swarbs
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| Gross Admiral Raeder wrote: | ok I am sorry I have not done anything in a while. I have been real busy with work and Getting ready to move next week.
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I will do my half tomorrow, ok? |
no problem
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EvilKobra
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Hmmmm. At first it looked like I'd have to face another tin-can fleet, but looking at the map again I'm not so sure. It's gonna be close!
Good luck Raeder!
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swarbs
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This upcoming gunnery is critical, if I come up with some smoke rolls I'm in pretty good shape, if I don't, it won't be pretty, then who knows, torpedoes are a fickle mistress.
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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Yeah Wich groups have smoke on them?
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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do you get a cover roll muliple times form one ship, ex. Bizzy shoots at DD with all 3 weapon systems, do you get 3 cover rolls?
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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or in other words I shoot at 1 dd with a dd and use both guns and toprps, do you get 2 cover rolls
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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BTW your cover roll is a 6 if we are both in the same screen
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swarbs
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Smoke in E5 and smoke in F6, so saves on a five or six from outside sector, saves on 6 from inside, as I understand it, I get one cover roll for each hit. Please note that you can't shoot through smoke either, so some of you shots are blocked a bit.
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swarbs
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| swarbs wrote: | so to sum up the air phase results:
Southern Koln (#3) sunk
Galster 8 crippled
Galster 4 sunk
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here is after the airphase, so before you start shooting, just brought this to the front since its buried a page or two back
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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| swarbs wrote: |
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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I'll start with my cripped G #8
at Jav #7
Rolls: (4d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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G#4 guns @
Jav#6
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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G5 Guns @ Jav #6
Rolls: (5d6)
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Gross Admiral Raeder
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SWEET
Jav#6 Killed and Jav #5 is Cripped at this point
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