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Jesse_James · The Library

This thread is for web sites as well as book recommendations towards info on ships/subs/planes of the 1st world war. I will have everything posted on the first post, and will be posted under nation or miscellaneous.

For General Informatuion:
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/

Germany
http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/index.html
France
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyFrench.htm#dreads
Nice site that has a large selection of ships, subs, etc. A bit of history on the names, some combat status, and info on the ships size.
Italy
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1CampaignsItaly.htm
Interesting site that has small battle reports from WWI, nothing big but could help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regia_Marina#World_War_I
Wiki seems to show up a lot these days, will just add to the pile. Very little info.
USA
http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyUS.htm
Same site as the French navy, as well as others. Interesting site.
UK
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/monitors.htm
UK monitors, lots of them!
http://www.naval-history.net/NAVAL1914-18.htm
Large amount of info on various classes of the Royal Navy.
Encyclopedia of British Submarines 1901-1955. Limited Google-view of the book. It even includes the monetary cost of each submarine.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.u...mp;GPE=False&MARKER=0&j=1
The British National Archives Admiralty section
miscellaneous
http://www.gwpda.org/naval/n0000000.htm
Just a site that has a bit of everything. Paint schemes, photos history.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/index_weapons.htm
For plans: http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/plans and http://www.warshipsww2.eu/staty.php?language=E&period=
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/MK/index.htm

Jesse_James

FYI in the past day or 2 have saved a lot of web sites on WWI ships about 30+ and will post them within a 24 hour period.

So stay tuned.

lotharlutjens

I got quite a few myself Jesse_James. I'll wait till I see what you posted and then If I got something you don't I'll let you know.

Lutjens out

Jesse_James

lotharlutjens

Can you PM me? I'm new to doing some of these things and need to ask a few questions. (computer literate I'm not) I'm amazed that I even figured out how to do the little that I do know.

Lutjens out

lotharlutjens

For General Informatuion:
http://www.worldwar1.co.uk/

For the Big Guns:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/index_weapons.htm

For the German fleet.
http://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/index.html

Lutjens out

Shigure

I've got a link to the British National Archives Admiralty section that could yield some very interesting results.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.u...mp;GPE=False&MARKER=0&j=1

And a general encyclopedia of the war and the vessels involved.

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/n0000000.htm

Jesse_James

NeuralDream

I've added in the first post the prices of some common aircraft. This is extremely difficult information to come across, so we should make sure we won't lose it Razz

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Texas Grognard

I've compiled a short bibliography of books. It is by no means complete and I will add more source materials as I find it.

German Warships of World War I: The Royal Navy's Official Guide to the Capital Ships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Submarines and Small Craft, 1914-1918 (Hardcover) by Norman Friedman (Author)

Jane’s Fighting Ships of World War I by John E. (editor) Moore (Hardcover - 1990)

Conway’s All the World’s Fighting Ships, 1869-1905 by Conway Maritime Editors (Hardcover - Dec 1979)

Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships: 1906-1921 (Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, Vol 2) by Robert Gardiner and Randal Gray (Hardcover - May 1985)

Salut y'all!

Texas Grognard

Sorry that should be::

German Warships of World War I: The Royal Navy's Official Guide to the Capital Ships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Submarines and Small Craft, 1914-1918 (Hardcover) by Norman Friedman (Author)

Jane’s Fighting Ships of World War I by John E. (editor) Moore (Hardcover - 1990)

Conway’s All the World’s Fighting Ships, 1860-1905 by Conway Maritime Editors (Hardcover - Dec 1979)

Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships: 1906-1921 (Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships, Vol 2) by Robert Gardiner and Randal Gray (Hardcover - May 1985)

Salut y'all!

Texas Grognard

Here's some more source material for the bibliography:

Naval Firepower: Battleship Guns and Gunnery in the Dreadnaught Era by Norman Friedman and A. D. Baker (Hardcover - Jan 15, 2008)

Sir John Fisher's Naval Revolution (Studies in Maritime History) by Nicholas A. Lambert (Hardcover - Jun 1999)

Dreadnought Gunnery at the Battle of Jutland: Fire Conntrol and the Royal Navy 1892-1919 (Cass Series--Naval Policy and History) by John Brooks (Hardcover - Jul 19, 2005)

Dreadnought: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War by Robert K. Massie (Paperback - Sep 15, 1992)

Castles of Steel: Britain, Germany, and the Winning of the Great War at Sea by Robert K. Massie (Paperback - Nov 2, 2004)

swarbs

some info, some pictures of major navies from advent of steam-WWII

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/

unfortunately no plans

lots of pictures, some plans here:
http://www.navsource.org/

swarbs

a German navy site, BB/BC drawings
http://german-navy.tripod.com

some scanned books here in the russian language (but not just russian ships) if anyone knows it, or knows how to web-translate, but they have lots of links to line drawings (to which ships I don't know, the not knowing russian thing) but you could click around. Just click on a promising cover, then there are links to what seems like each page in the magazine, sometimes with some linedrawing thumbnails, each edition seems like it has a color plate with the best detail towards the end.

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/MK/index.htm

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/WeaponBook/Fleet.htm

a random example of an unknown ship, resized smaller I hope

lotharlutjens

Swarbs, the Russian sites have some good stuff, unfortunately I don't speak or read Russian either. I just started clicking here and there when suddenly a full colour look down view of what was obviously a German Dreadnought ( I could tell that by the marvelous German Flags at the top)
Clicking on the thumbnail pic it enlarged and Lo and behold in the right margin were the words Prinz Luitpold, a Kaiser class Dreadnought! I'm going to look around but I'm using dial up and Pic's are slow to load, so if anyone interested in this project who has a faster system than me (everybody in the multiverse) wants to help, please, because there is a lot to look at here and no telling what we may find. Darn those rooskies, how dare they print this wonderful looking Site in Russian. Don't they know we American's speak English. H'm, Go Figure.

Here's what I found

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/M...ne/MK/1996_03/Pictures/Color1.jpg

Jesse_James

swarbs

lotharlutjens

Oh yeah baby, didn't even know Babelfish existed. Copied, some text inside a magazine cover, pasted it into Babelfish text translator, set it for Russian to English and magically the gibberish transferred into, The Italian Fleet of 1914-1918..... WOW!!! Found a full colour look down view of the destroyer Lika immediately, someone who knows how to save pics needs to search these sites, a real treasure trove. Even though my machine is slow I expect to spend a little time there. The plates are Gorgeous.

Thank You Jesse_James

And yes, Swarbs was right, the Illustrations do seem to be at the bottom of each page.

Absolutely wonderful.

And there's other web-sites in other languages.

HA HA HA HA HA, I HAVE THE POWER!!!! Twisted Evil

Jesse_James

Why would you waste your time translating texts by copy N' past when you can translate the whole web page?

Insert the link on the 2nd option pick Russian to English and its almost like magic.

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/transl...p;lp=ru_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Now if only it could do my paper on Plato's work I would be set for life. Razz

By the way swarbs great site. It has been put into my FAV section.
One of the best sites I have seen in some time. Wink

lotharlutjens

Swarbs, you are right, there is a lot of profiles, but some mighty good full colour look down views as well, In a little over an hour, on my incredibly slow machine, I have found the following, besides the above mentioned Italian and German ships.

Russia DD Grom
Romania TB Locotenant Calinescu Dimitriu
Spain B Espana
France SS Curie

and for Jesse who turned me on to Babblefish

Austria Hungary B Viribus Unitus
B Szent Istvan

All gorgeous full colour Look Down View plates.

zaarin7

Any of the Illustrated Design History by Norman Friedman are great on the WW I USN. British Battleships by Oscar Parks has lots on the RN capitol ships. Warship, an anual publication starting in 1989 and known as Warship International before that IIRC has articles on maritime history and ship design from 1850 or so forwards.

swarbs

another pretty general link - might even already be up, I'm not sure, but it is mostly a collection of other articles, plus its got orders of battle, fleet lists etc.
http://www.gwpda.org/naval/n0000000.htm#swt

Here's perhaps the most useful page off there for our (or my) purposes, diagrams of all Russian pre-dreadnoughts.

http://www.gwpda.org/naval/irnprds.htm

Jesse_James

This is an interesting site

http://home.att.net/~WellsBrothers/Battleships/FrenchBBtable.html

lotharlutjens

I took the liberty of moving this to the library Swarbs, I hope you don't mind.

I backed up from that origional russian web-page and found some more stuff, including an issue with essentially all the Russian and Japanese vessels from the RJ war, almost all with top-downs, including torpedo boats and even a Russian auxilliery.

Here are the relevant links in Russian since linking through a translation program doesn't seem to work.

Japan info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ2/03.htm
pictures/illustrations:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ2/Pictures/index.htm

Russia is divided into the baltic and far eastern fleets, I think Eastern fleet is first, might have them mixed up.
Eastern fleet info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/03.htm
Baltic fleet info/diagrams:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/05.htm
color plates (pretty but no look-downs)
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/RJ1/Pictures/index.htm

Here is the link where they came from, they're the first two issues pictured up at the top. The second grouping is for all the nations of WWI, but these are also mixed in with the other issues in the first Russian link I found. They have top-downs of all dreadnoughts and BC's, but very few look downs of other stuff. (and WWII is at the bottom if you have any interest)

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Reference/Fleet/

And while I'm at it I might as well put up other stuff too. I've been looking for top-downs that weren't battleships and here are two links I've found that have some other stuff.
First Russian DD's, the top downs are marred with number labels, but we might not get a better image, so here goes:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/Escadra/Nevki/Draw/index.htm

Now Japanese DD's, also included here are everything through WWII.
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/Jap_DD/index.htm

The actual diagrams are here:
http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/Jap_DD/Draw/index.htm

I believe both nations ordered DD's from either the UK, Germany or both, so maybe some cross-use of pics isn't out of the question, though it will take some work to match up each diagram with exactly the class in questions.

That Japanese destroyer issue comes from the archive here:

http://www.wunderwaffe.narod.ru/Magazine/BKM/

The magazines are arranged by nation, most are about specific classes, some of the promising ones were dissapointments, the one about German DD's for instance has only side views.

Ok, so now everyone has essentially the same diagram resources as me.

zaarin7

Two more books:

Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting, John Cambell, The Lyons Press, 1998.

Campbells book on WW II naval guns would talk about a lot of WW I guns still in service in WW II.

Jutland, The German Perspective, V. E. Terrant, Brockhampton Press, 1995.

Rapid Fire which I have somewhere is, IIRC, a survey and discussion of guns larger the HMG's but smaller than 60mm or so. The relavance is some of them were used as anti-TD and DD guns early in this period.

cealigh the MadScot

Power at Sea; The Age of Navalism, 1890-1918 by Lisle A. Rose
Great book 1st in the series of three books. Great info about the political climates, backgrounds into how and why different battles took place IE: Jutland, Scapa Flow, Etc... Mind sets of the different Governments and their fleet admirals their attitudes etc.
I've found my self wondering what would have happened if the crews of the British ships actually had mutinied at scapa flow? What would have happened if the High seas fleet actively engaged the Grand Fleet immediately again in the north sea right after Jutland? After reading his book I started to ask these kinds of questions.
Then different scenario ideas began to form.

dracos42

This is another site to check out:

http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/

There are computer models of various warships, ship plans of some ships, videos of how dreadnaught technology worked, a good source/links page, etc.

Tiornu

swarbs

don't know if someone posted this before, but here's a links page from another site, some of the links are dead, some look interesting

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/links-navy.htm