Aquarius
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Round 4 RvM-vs-Packertim
RvM's fleet:
5*Javelin
5*Truculent
Fencer
Ark Royal
Hellcat
3*Beaufigther
2*Sea Hurricane
1*Swordfish
Packertim's fleet:
3 avengers
2 dauntlesses
2 hellcats
pby
3 wildcats
yorktown
enterprise
3 barbs
lockwood
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packertim
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details? pts? reinforcement lst?
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Aquarius
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Look in the announcement, Tim. I explained everything there.
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packertim
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my reinforcement list: Iowa 68 pts is too large
san francisco, hoel, fletcher, sammy b=38 pts
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Aquarius
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Post that in the announcement so that RAEVSKI sees it.
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Richter von Manthofen
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Oh almost forgot: Roll for SETUP
Rolls: (2d6)  
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packertim
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set up Rolls: (2d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Choose your side...
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packertim
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what do i have to choose from?
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packertim
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my fleet has been sent to aquarius
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packertim
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if you have sent yours in we can post our fleets
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Richter von Manthofen
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You can choose if you want to start at row 1 or row 11 - If I am correct AQ will post the Map later...
My fleet
(no surprise considering what is left  )
5*Javelin
5*Truculent
Fencer
Ark Royal
Hellcat
3*Beaufigther
2*Sea Hurricane
1*Swordfish
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packertim
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amazing how similar our forces are
3 avengers, 2 dauntlesses, 2 hellcats, pby, 3 wildcats
yorktown, enterprise, 3 barbs w lockwood on one of these 5
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packertim
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side 1
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packertim
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What do we do now? We have been here for a couple of days now.
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Richter von Manthofen
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You could surrender  
I assume we have to wait for a map.
Honestly I think you have a good chance to win, the US Air Force (Hellcat and Avenger - the others are beatable) is superior. I'd prefer to fight a BB over US air .
But nonetheless I am looking forward to this game...
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packertim
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Did you see the force with a Musashi and a Yamato? Just go up and sit on the objectives. Who is going to take the two off with supporting fire from the one not engaged.
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packertim
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oh, did you notice they gave us BOTH losses last game? Maybe this time we should both insist we win and they will award us both wins.
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packertim
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enterprise, yorktown 1n a1
barb1 5b
barb2 5d
barb3 5e
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packertim
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Let me know when you want to play. I am going to be checking in to see when we can get this wrapped up
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Richter von Manthofen
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Sorry I can't play today. (may be able to look in here once or twice)
but for Setup
my Trus are B7,C7,D7,E7,F7
Fencer+Jav C11
Ark+JAv D11
Jav E11
2Javs F11
my init Rolls: (2d6)
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packertim
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init Rolls: (2d6) +2
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packertim
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I must agree with our earlier statement. I don't think this match up favors you at all. Good Luck, I think you re going to need to throw some hot dice.
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packertim
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Do you have time for a turn or two? It is your move.
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Richter von Manthofen
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trus to:b6,c6,d6,e6,f6
ark + jav:d9
fen+ jav: c9
2javs: e9
jav: g9
swordfish 1 to barb1
your move
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packertim
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enterpruse and yorktown to 3a
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packertim
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avenger to b6
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packertim
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to speed things up, here are my next 3 air moves
avenger to 6c and 6d
2 dauntlesses to 2 javs
i guess that is 4 moves
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Richter von Manthofen
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I then have to put 5 planes...
a Sea hurricane to Barb 1
A Sea Hurricane + 3 Beaufighters to the Enterprise(Yorktown)
that is 6 planes...
your turn...
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packertim
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2 hellcats, 1 wildcat to yorktown
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Richter von Manthofen
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Hellcat to Dauntlesses
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packertim
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is that all of your air because you are still 2 planes behind?
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packertim
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ok, i think that is all of your air
to finish up
wildcat to barb 1
pby to 6e
wcat to dauntlesses
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packertim
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simultaneous aa:
1. Hellcat into a Beaufighter over Enterprise
base of 8 +2 ADv Fighter= 10d
Rolls: (10d6)   
2. wildcat at hellcat by dauntlesses 7d
Rolls: (7d6)
await results from these
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packertim
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those rolls are exactly what you need me to do
1. enterprise 8d at a beaufighter
Rolls: (8d6) 
2. exp2 wc at swordfish over barb1 base 7 +2 =9d only 5,6 escorted
Rolls: (9d6)
see what happens to these 2
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packertim
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both aborted but used up the EXP2 doing it.
hellcat w adv fighter into beaufighter
base 8 + 2 =10d
Rolls: (10d6)
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packertim
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1 more Beaufighter aborted still one left but hellcats with their ADV Fighter +2 are all gone
Exp Wildcat w def the flatop at beaufighter
base of 7 +1 (last expert) +1 def = 9
Rolls: (9d6)
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packertim
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this rolling has gone exactly how you needed me to roll 1 hit for 9 dice .
leaves the yorktown with 7d to try the last beaufighter
Rolls: (7d6)
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packertim
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Wow!!! You could not have asked for a better first turn. A beaufighter actually made it through against 2 hellcats, a wildcat, the enterprise and the Yorktown. And nothing got splashed, not even the swordfish against an exp2 wildcat.
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packertim
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I have 4 uncontested ASW attacks at 6b, 6c, 6d and the PBY at 6e
6b: avengerw 4d asw a truc Rolls: (4d6)
6c: same Rolls: (4d6)
6d: same Rolls: (4d6)
6e: PBY w 3d asw a truc Rolls: (3d6)
all i have left are the 2 dauntlesses if they get through
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packertim
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Trucs in 6d and 6e are crippled
await your results
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Richter von Manthofen
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Sorry for the delay, but I have quite a work overload problem.... 
Hope I can finish this without disturbance.
I start with AA
At Yorktown: Sea Hurricane - Wildcat Rolls: (6d6)
at Barb: Sea Hurricane - Wildcat Rolls: (6d6)
My Hellcat attacks a Dauntless (expert Dogfighter from Ark) Rolls: (9d6)
A Javelin does its AA fire against a Dauntless Rolls: (5d6)
the Second Javelin targets a Dauntless if one remains else it shoots at Wildcat Rolls: (5d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Ok 1st dauntless aborted not very lucky
I use the Fencers Fighter cover against the remaining Dauntless
Rolls: (5d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Ok one dauntless gets throug the second may Press its attack
My BEaufughter targets Yorktown
2torps + 4dice strafing
Rolls: (2d6)
Rolls: (4d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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make your bomb
no sucess for me
Air return Hellcat, Swordfish and one SHc to Ark SHc to Javelin
init for next turn
Rolls: (2d6)
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packertim
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your rolls looked better than mine. am i correct that i have a dauntkess through?
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packertim
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Can a Beaufighter do both like that?
EXP@ Dauntless =12 d at a Javelin
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packertim
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supposed to be exp2
Rolls: (12d6)
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packertim
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javelin sunk
what is an hsc
6 carrier spots are 3 avenger, 2 hellcat 1 wildcat
init Rolls: (2d6) +2
you only lost a javelin and got 2 subs crippled
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Richter von Manthofen
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Your question about the Beaufighter:
I have played it that way for some time now - no one complained...
reason: IF a ship makes a Torpedo attack + Main Gunnery, why hould a plane prohibited?
But that question could be brought before the answer guy ...
hsc ?? I surely meant S(ea)H(urri)c(ane) 
Subs stay where they are
Jav G9-G7
jav e9-E7
Ark + jav d9-d7
Fencer+jav c9-c7
your move
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packertim
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all units will maintain position
of course, sea hurricand
ok on beayfighter
your subs will be tough with silent running this turn
your air placement
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Richter von Manthofen
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OK - Swordfish again to Barb 1
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packertim
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avenger to 6d
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Richter von Manthofen
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Hellcat to Ark
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packertim
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avenger to crippled truc in 6e
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Richter von Manthofen
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Sea Hurricane to Barb 1
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packertim
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hellcat to barb 1
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Richter von Manthofen
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OK my last plane - Sea hurricane to Fencer
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packertim
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wildcat to ark royal
hellcat to fencer
avenger to fencer
pby to sub in 6b
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Richter von Manthofen
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at Barb 1
Sea Hurricane attacks Hellcat Rolls: (6d6)
Fencer, Jav, Sea Hurricane attack Avenger in that order, if aborted attacks switch to Hellcat
Rolls: (5d6)
Rolls: (5d6)
Rolls: (6d6) -1
Hellcat + expert Dogfighter attacks Wildcat at Ark (+2dice from adv Fighter) Rolls: (11d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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That means your Avenger at Fencer is aborted (also the Hellcat - does not matter)
Wildcat at Ark is also aborted.
The Fencers Fighter cover is now free to attack the PBY - Rolls: (5d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Your PBY explodes in midair and a sub crew is quite reliefed...
(great roll)
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DaJudge
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Guys-
A plane may make ONE attack per turn- this was clarified shortly after Task Force came out. A plane may do ONE attack per turn- strafe, AA, bomb, or torpedo.
That's it. I didn't see anything during the game that would mess anything up though.
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packertim
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over barb 1 hell cat w exp at swordfish
base8 +1 exp =9d
Rolls: (9d6)
over fencer exp2 Hellcat w ADV Fighter 2 at Hurricane
base 8 +2 exp +2 Adv Fighter =12d
Rolls: (12d6)
over Ark WC 7d at HC
Rolls: (7d6)
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DaJudge
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I know what you're thinkin too! An Avenger could strafe as well as drop bombs or torpedoes or even fire rockets and quite literally, all of the above while taking pictures! lol
However, in real life, a plane on a torpedo run would not be firing it's machine guns. An SBD or TBM would do it's bomb run and then strafe, if possible during the pull out or pull up, after it's bomb load was released. A plane is much less maneuverable with bombs and/or torpedo aboard. I think Richard Baker did it that way to make it less complex, one attack, per plane, per turn.
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Richter von Manthofen
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If this so, its ok with me - could you point me to this decision though - I want to include it im my "IMPORTANT CLARIFICATIONS"... Thanks
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Richter von Manthofen
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IIread that correctly one SHc dead
and my Sword can do an ASW attack (first time that a Swordie got through against an aa attack)
with Fencers Expert ASW Rolls: (4d6)
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packertim
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swordfish makes it through hurricane over fencer is toast
avenger at crippled sub in 6d
4d asw Rolls: (4d6)
avenger at sub in 6e 4d asw
Rolls: (4d6)
pby 3d asw at sub in 6b
Rolls: (3d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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CRRRAA.......
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packertim
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that air phase all that to splash a hurricane and sink a crippled sub.
checking how you did before i take my sub shots
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Richter von Manthofen
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not that it matters, but your PBY went up in flames (Fencers fighter cover), so it is dead and can't attack in the air attack phase.
SHc + Tru dead
during the attack phase all my Javs smoke...
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packertim
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ok pby did not hit anything anyway
barb1 is harrassed so only 1 torp at jav in 7c
Rolls: (1d6)
barb 3 gets 2 torps (w Lockwood) at Jav in 7e Rolls: (2d6)
barb 2 will wait for results
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Richter von Manthofen
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Smoke in 7E
Rolls: (1d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Jav in 7e dead
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packertim
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barb 2 gets 2 torps into jav in 7c Rolls: (2d6)
await smoke roll on jav in 7e
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packertim
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and a smoke roll in 7c
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Richter von Manthofen
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Rolls: (1d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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Attack negated
I return Hellcat Swordfish and Sea Hurricane to Ark
init for next turn
Rolls: (2d6)
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packertim
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init Rolls: (2d6) +2
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packertim
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so all of 2 turns w this great airpower and i have:
splashed a hurricane
sunk one sub , crippled another
sunk 2 Javs
This turn I had better do better or you will win!!!!
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DaJudge
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| Richter von Manthofen wrote: | | If this so, its ok with me - could you point me to this decision though - I want to include it im my "IMPORTANT CLARIFICATIONS"... Thanks |
I honestly don't remember, I just remember it coming up and being kind of a big deal.
I'm sure it's under War at Sea Discussion- somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.
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packertim
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You have moved Fencer two hexes the first two turns. He is only a movement of ONE. He should only be in row 9 not row 7.
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packertim
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if you know when you plan on playing, i will try to be available then.
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packertim
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good morning!
This has usually been a good time for you to play, so I was just checking in to see if you were playing.
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packertim
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r u available this morning?
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Richter von Manthofen
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Sorry about the Fencer - I did not realize the Fencer is only speed 2 - anyhow he couldhave ttacked the PBY (reach 3 for teh attack)
Turn 3
Fencer is D8
Javelin in C6
Ark + Jav in E6
Jav at G6
Swordfish goes to Barb 3 - this turn
BTW weekends is usually family time only - I can only check if I am "alone".
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packertim
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subs?
we can wait til morning if you wish
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packertim
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subs?
we can wait til morning if you wish
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packertim
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dauntless and avenger to c6
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Richter von Manthofen
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Subs are fine where they are...
2 Beaufighters to C6
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packertim
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2 avengers to jav in g6
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Richter von Manthofen
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Sea Hurricane + Beaufigther to G6
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packertim
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daunt and hellcat to c6
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Richter von Manthofen
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Hellcat to C6 - my last plane - Sorry for the delay, but there is quite a emergency at work...
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packertim
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hellcat to g6
wildcat to barb3
a second wc to barb3
and the third and last wildcat to g6
aa time be kind
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packertim
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exp2 hellcat w adv fighter at hurricane in g6
8 +2 +2 = 12d
Rolls: (12d6)
hellcat w adv fighter at beaufighter in c6 8 +2 =10d
Rolls: (10d6)
WC at Beaufighter in g6
Rolls: (7d6)
exp wc at Swordfish over Barb3
Rolls: (8d6)
last turn missed w exp Hellcat At the Swordfish got 1 hit
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packertim
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at last the sword fish is splashed
nothing else though
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Richter von Manthofen
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if I get all correct I have to worry about planes in c6 and g6
start with G 6
Sea Hurrican and Beaufighter have both 6 dice
attacking the Avengers
Rolls: (6d6)
Rolls: (6d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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miss both then athe javelin tries
Rolls: (5d6)
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Richter von Manthofen
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I think the lone Javelin is toast... (if you don't miss completely)
switching to c6
two beaufigthers to Dauntlesses
Rolls: (6d6)
Rolls: (6d6)
Hellcat against Avenger (with expert Dogfighter)
Rolls: (9d6)
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