Nalleman
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Which is your favourite 1939 tank?I like to play early war years. Tanks are very simple but also somehow more romantic than those big tanks from the year 1945. So, what is your favourite 1939 year tank and why? If you have any nice stories about your favourite units, please share 
This is the first poll about your favourite units. The idea was by WarGamerX. Poll will last for 14 days. What should be the next poll? Do you want the poll last longer or shorter time?
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Polish_Cavalryman
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tough call for me. I said Ha-Go. solid on infantry and vehicles by 1939 standards. fast enough and cheap. with some fun abilities.
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afilter
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Went with the Char because it kicked my backside in the olympics. 
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Field Marshal PF
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Elite Pz.IV D hands down. I play axis mostly and in 1939 its crackshot makes up for 3/3 armour and its cost is reasonable. In 1939, its only really vunerable to the Char B1-bis, which again crackshot can mean it can go either way.
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Nalleman
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| afilter wrote: | | Went with the Char because it kicked my backside in the olympics. |
Yeah, Char B1- bis is tough nut to crack in year 1939. I played against France and that player had 2xChar B1-bis, 2x Somua and 2x Renault. My german forces were annihilated. Char B1-bis is really the power house of the year 1939.
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Field Marshal PF
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The reason the French armoured forces lost to the Germans was not about the quality of the tank itself, the French were clearly superior but they lacked radios, which are essentially to any organized armoured fighting force. They were also deployed sparsly, against concentrated Panzer formations.
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NeuralDream
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In reality the Somua. The cataphract of the war. In the game the Char (speed 3 lol - it could barely roll).
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Lettische_Scooterist
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I went with the T-35. I've used it a couple of times and never lost it once! The only important thing was to keep it's side armor away from teh enemy. Otherwise, it's able to chew up axis armor and infantry. 
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afilter
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| Field Marshal PF wrote: | | The reason the French armoured forces lost to the Germans was not about the quality of the tank itself, the French were clearly superior but lack radios, which are essentially to any organized armoured fighting force. They were also deployed sparsly, against concentrated Panzer formations. |
Oh and I thought it was because they were manned by French troops.
Sorry, I could not resist. 
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rognar65
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It has to be the Elite Panzer IV Ausf.D. It's the only 1939 tank I ever use in unlimited games.
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Polish_Cavalryman
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Char should have a special ability requiring a fuel dump for speed 3. Otherwise speed 2. They had to fuel twice per day.
Also it should have prone to breakdown. Those nasty French Communists did some serious sabotage in the factories. They damaged some planes pretty bad as well.
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WarGamerX
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Firstly Thanks For Setting this up…. Looks Great 
I will Also go with the Char, A solid Defender and Deadly with that double shot ability.
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Polish_Cavalryman
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| NeuralDream wrote: | | In reality the Somua. The cataphract of the war. In the game the Char (speed 3 lol - it could barely roll). |
agreed about Somua. The fact that an R-35 is almost better than a Somua is crazy.
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RAEVSKI
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I voted R35 because in game turns an extremly cheap piece of armour.
Also it was used the Romania Mare Division before it was named.
Heart lies with R2 though
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Tyree67
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The Char is the better tank but I voted for the Elite Panzer IV just because I use it the most. I've killed lots of T-34s with it.
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Cpt. John Miller
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I voted for the Char but I really like the BT-7. If the M3 Stuart wasn't so good the BT-7 would be a real force in the game.
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Sink the Bismark
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Personally- I love the Somua. Great blend of cost and ability. I think that complexity SA can really hurt. Happened to me once- I had my rear armor facing a PAK-40   
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Richter von Manthofen
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OTHER here: the best 1939 is clearly the KV-1, sure it was made better later on, but in 1939 he found no match...
(Or did I misunderstand and you menat AAm tanks only ? - then I would go with the BT-7...
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Nalleman
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| Richter von Manthofen wrote: | OTHER here: the best 1939 is clearly the KV-1, sure it was made better later on, but in 1939 he found no match...
(Or did I misunderstand and you menat AAm tanks only ? - then I would go with the BT-7... |
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No no, the other is just for that. Other options
Next poll I make, will be clearer so there will be only minimal chance for confusion
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DarkMercy
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What, no panzer 38(t), my very favorite early war tank. I am shocked and dismayed! Maybe even a little hurt.
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NeuralDream
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Re: Which is your favourite 1939 tank? | Nalleman wrote: | | Poll will last for 14 days. What should be the next poll? Do you want the poll last longer or shorter time? |
Why should it end?
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Nalleman
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Re: Which is your favourite 1939 tank? | NeuralDream wrote: | | Nalleman wrote: | | Poll will last for 14 days. What should be the next poll? Do you want the poll last longer or shorter time? |
Why should it end? |
Good point, but I would also like to summarize different polls together. Maybe we should have a poll about what to do with polls
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zaarin7
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I went with T-35 because it looks so cool. Almost enough turrets to name them for the days of the week but that honor goes to HMS Agincourt.
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Shank77
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I picked the Char B1-bis because it looks to be the toughest.
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TorontoBizz
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I'm going to dig up this old thread, because early war is coming soon and the AAM boards need to get going again.
I vote for the Panzer 38 (t). Great tank for the price, decent speed, good armour, good AT and AI. Great overall.
Do you think the Panzer 38 (t) will be re-issued in EW?
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Sgt WAKA
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The 38t should be with an EW set, but i doubt that would make sense to the 'Chimps in Charge'. Ergo you could say they're shouldn't have been that stupid Jap gun and the soviet pieces with NA. BASTARDS!!BASTARDS!!! 
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boersma8
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Panzer II C. Certainly not the best tank, but nevertheless my favourite. Hard to say why. Guess because they've undersold it so much giving it the stats it has. AS should have been 7/7/6 and AV 5/4/3. That and double shot and excellent suspension actually would have made for quite a decent early war tank.....
PS: Isn't it possible to vote anymore?????
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TorontoBizz
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| Sgt WAKA wrote: | | The 38t should be with an EW set, but i doubt that would make sense to the 'Chimps in Charge'. Ergo you could say they're shouldn't have been that stupid Jap gun and the soviet pieces with NA. BASTARDS!!BASTARDS!!! |
Well we do have the 38 (t) from EF already, it's a nice scuplt. I'd be happy to proxy it if needed. Of course the 38 (t) fits well in both EF and EW.
I didn't mind the Russian/Japanese units in NA. I like the idea of having an over all theme for a release but adding a few extra pieces for flavour. If you're a Russian or Japanese player these units come in handy, but by not going over board with non theme pieces you get a good release. 
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TorontoBizz
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| boersma8 wrote: | Panzer II C. Certainly not the best tank, but nevertheless my favourite. Hard to say why. Guess because they've undersold it so much giving it the stats it has. AS should have been 7/7/6 and AV 5/4/3. That and double shot and excellent suspension actually would have made for quite a decent early war tank.....
PS: Isn't it possible to vote anymore????? |
The thread originator added an expiry date for the voting.
I feel that the Panzer II C should have another SA to better capture the feel of a 20mm at close range. Something like
Devestating fire: This unit gets +1 on each die roll for short range attacks against both infantry and vehicles.
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Sharpe
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| TorontoBizz wrote: | | boersma8 wrote: | Panzer II C. Certainly not the best tank, but nevertheless my favourite. Hard to say why. Guess because they've undersold it so much giving it the stats it has. AS should have been 7/7/6 and AV 5/4/3. That and double shot and excellent suspension actually would have made for quite a decent early war tank.....
PS: Isn't it possible to vote anymore????? |
The thread originator added an expiry date for the voting.
I feel that the Panzer II C should have another SA to better capture the feel of a 20mm at close range. Something like
Devestating fire: This unit gets +1 on each die roll for short range attacks against both infantry and vehicles. |
-1 on Cover Rolls at Short Range with higher AI stats might be a good alternative.
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boersma8
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| TorontoBizz wrote: | | boersma8 wrote: | Panzer II C. Certainly not the best tank, but nevertheless my favourite. Hard to say why. Guess because they've undersold it so much giving it the stats it has. AS should have been 7/7/6 and AV 5/4/3. That and double shot and excellent suspension actually would have made for quite a decent early war tank.....
PS: Isn't it possible to vote anymore????? |
The thread originator added an expiry date for the voting.
I feel that the Panzer II C should have another SA to better capture the feel of a 20mm at close range. Something like
Devestating fire: This unit gets +1 on each die roll for short range attacks against both infantry and vehicles. |
but even with crack shot you still wouldn't be able to hurt a Renault at short range, because its actual stats are 4/3/2 if I'm not mistaken.
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Richter von Manthofen
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Th Panzer II is not MEANT to fight other tanks. hir weapons are meant to attack soldiers and maybbe "soft" vehicles. If you use it as tank killer you deserrve to lose 
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boersma8
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| Richter von Manthofen wrote: | | Th Panzer II is not MEANT to fight other tanks. hir weapons are meant to attack soldiers and maybbe "soft" vehicles. If you use it as tank killer you deserrve to lose |
Granted, but there's no reason it should be as bad as it is. Even a machine gun has equal or better (MG on US haltrack at long range) stats against vehicles. I feel it should be 5/4/3 and not 4/3/2. That's also what HHR gave it. You still need to be very lucky on your rolls-even at close range- against a 4/4 French tank, but it's not utterly impossible.....
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Richter von Manthofen
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Good point...
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