IJN Fuso
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Hood's Fatal Flaw revisitedThere have been ample discussions on this SA - but I'd like to offer yet another alternative...
Hood's Fatal Flaw makes it one of the worst units in the game. Maybe this was the intent, but I'd like to change the SA a bit to make it more useable - so here goes:
Instead of automatically destroying Hood on 4 sixes from a BB - when 4 sixes are rolled against Hood By a BBs main guns only at Range 3 or greater, roll a die. On 1 or 2 Destroy Hood. Otherwise, do nothing. Thoughts?
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jfkziegler
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If you take out fatal flaw, Hood is undercosted for how good it is, especially with those torpedoes that give Hood a chance to do two or three damage to a local enemy battleship. If you want to take out fatal flaw, or water it down, you would also have to increase Hood's cost.
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afilter
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I agree something needs to be done. I 2/3 sceanrios we recently used it fatal flaw was demise. Once by the Dunkerque.
I like adding the range, but also agree points should be changed.
As it stands Hood's only use is to hold back out of range of BBs until their extended range is gone.
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The_lucky_Y
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let the SA only trigger if the Bismarck fire against Hood.
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IJN Fuso
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Thats interesting.
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jfkziegler
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| The_lucky_Y wrote: | | let the SA only trigger if the Bismarck fire against Hood. |
From a historical perspective, though, and ship with guns as powerful as or more powerful than the Bismack would have been able to do the same thing. So why limit it to just Bismarck?
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Nisk
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I like the roll a die thing, personally. I might have to make a updated card and add it to my collection. The Hood is such a great model, with decent stats but the SA makes it poo.
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ehenry0623
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i don;t like the die roll. it's an extra step which could be repeated several times before drawing an outcome.
Instead offer a one time die roll when Fatal Flaw is enacted. 1-3, Hood is destroyed, 4-6, Hood is crippled.
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Toronado3800
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4 sixes AND 2 fives AND 2 fours exactly?
This makes it more difficult to sink and eliminates the need for another roll.
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Duck Crusader
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Just make it exactly four sixes like we thought it was in the beginning.
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Tincancaptain
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The only problem i have with fatal flaw is that it is written such that it does not distinguish between the main guns and secondary or tertiary guns.
I have played at least 2 games where the Hood survived a main gun salvo to be fatal flawed with a secondary gun salvo, I have also seen the Hood go up against the likes of Yamato and Musashi and not even be vitaled(She still sank of course, it was just by being hit 5 different times).
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Duck Crusader
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Now wait, it's four sixes or more from a single shot.
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Tincancaptain
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Yes, but let me explain with an example.
it's turn three Hood is at range 2 to Bismarck Hood fires main guns at the Bis 3-6s 2-5s and 3-4s total 11 Bismarck takes 1 point of damage, Hoods secondaries and tertiaries miss the Hipper with Bismarck.
Bismarck returns fire mains roll 2-6s 2-5s and 1-4 total 7 Bismarck mains miss Bismarck fires secondaries at hood and rolls 4-6s and 1-5 hood sunk by fatal flaw.
This is what I was referring to.
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Duck Crusader
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Ah, I see what you're saying. Still, that's rather unlikely so having to roll EXACTLY four sixes is still a rather viable flaw. It's the four or more that really kills it.
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Tincancaptain
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I prefer the range 3 or greater rewrite that seems like enough for me. If you add a stipulation that fatal flaw only applies to battleship main guns I'll be as happy as a clam.
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DaJudge
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It's easy, take a bottle of White Out and completely blot out the Fatal Flaw SA and don't use it at all. The Hood at 48 points is overpriced anyway, in my opinion, with no torpedo defense, ok guns, and Flag 2, it's 3 points more than California, 2 points more than Warspite, I'll take those 2 everytime if it's a choice.
The 4 6's thing is silly anyway since 9 times out of 10 if the opponent targets Hood with mains and rolls 4 6's, it probably vitaled it anyway so it's pretty much an irrelevant SA and should be completely disregarded. It's armor isn't great, it's guns are ok and it's a flagship. Swell. For 48 points, it's good WITHOUT Fatal Flaw. With it, it should be like 42-43 points at most.
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Tincancaptain
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Given the gross over pricing of many axis units the fact that the hood is a little over priced for her abilities has me in tears.  
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