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Europa1942

Germany/Italy combo fleet suggestions

Ok now that i have ur opinions on what japanese units to use please help my axis partner with Germany and Italy. We do 300 pts per player and we limit each player to 3 battleships/battlecruisers (Deutchlands not included). We play on 2 full maps so it is an airman's paradise and we do niot play for objectives simply to destroy the enemy. its a 4 player game i am japan my partner is germany/italy another player is britain france and the allies and one is us. we do not do year/historic restrictions. Here is what we have:

Germany:
Bismarck
Tirpitz
Scharnhorst
Admrial Graf Spee
Admiral Hipper
Koln
Karlsruhe
Hans Ludemann
Karl Galster x3
S-Boat
Nordmark
Graf Zeppelin
Europa (planned unit)
Nordmark x3
U-66 x2
U-510
Bf109 x3
Ju87 x3
Kondor

Italy:
Littorio
Giulio Cesare
Bolzano x2
Emanuele Filiberto Duca d'Aosta
Eugenio Di Savoia
Luca Tarigo x2
Ugolini Vivaldi x2
Motor Torpedo Boat
Ambra x2
Folgore x2
Ju87 R2 Picchiatelli
Sparviero x2
Let me know what you think my partner should use... Remeber 300 pts and at maximum 3 battleships/battlecruisers. The enemy is equiped with all uk units, all french, the enterprise, st lo, 1 hellcat, 3 dauntless, missouri, washington, california, and tennessee. if there is any allied unit i have not mentioned that they have that u think would alter the units u would reccomend my partner take just ask and i will let u know if the allies have it. Oh yea... they do not have any avengers!
Thanks in advance guys.
The_lucky_Y

try to persuade your opponent to play with Royal Navy and French units only.


if not

year limit 1942 must be set or you give a autowin to USN player with his late war units.

IJN can help out with carriers(shokaku/zuikaku),Judys,Emilys and Zekes.

on surface some Long Lance destroyers

and donīt forget the I-19.

Bismarck and Littorio are ok against possible Tennessee/California/washington.
Europa1942

well its a 4 player game i am japan my partner is germany/italy another player is britain france and the allies and one is us. and i don't have i-19 only 2 i-26s and we do not do year/historic restrictions
Aquarius

Europa1942 wrote:
please help my axis partner with Germany and Italy.


The_lucky_Y wrote:
IJN can help out with carriers(shokaku/zuikaku),Judys,Emilys and Zekes.

on surface some Long Lance destroyers

and donīt forget the I-19..



thinking









Sorry, but that just struck me as slightly weird.
Europa1942

I am japan and my bud is gemrany and italy so i can help out and oh i have Akagi now
IJN Fuso

Given your available units - here's a suggestion:

Littorio 50
Bismarck 53
Scharnhorst 38
2X U66 24
U510 11
3 Galster 24
2 Luca 16
ViValdi 8
GZ 18
2 190 14
2 Sparv 22
Pich 8
Ludeman 8
Folgore 5

Each BB gets a Galster and Luca or Vivaldi Escort.
The GZ / Ludeman hang back with 109s for AA as needed.  This group might sneak towards a forgotton objective....

The Uboats attack enemy BBs in a wolfpack.  If you can add a Kondor - event better.

And the Itailin air fleet (2 Sparvs, Pich, and a Folglore) go after enemy surface fleets.  Use teh folglore to escort and the 109s for defense.

Good Luck.
Europa1942

any other suggestions
The_lucky_Y

Bismarck
Karl Galster x3
Graf Zeppelin
U-66 x2
U-510
Bf109 x3

Littorio
Giulio Cesare
Luca Tarigo x2
Ugolini Vivaldi x2
Folgore x2
Sparviero x2


try to get more Luca Tarigos, U 66 and perhaps a Tirpitz or another Littorio
Europa1942

Tirpitz is in now as well as a Kondor and 3 Nordmarks
The_lucky_Y

then try this build now:
Bismarck
Tirpitz
Karl Galster x3
Graf Zeppelin
U-66 x2
U-510
Bf109 x3

Littorio
Luca Tarigo x2
Folgore x1
Sparviero x2


with 3 big BB decent AA and sub power it seems to bee a handy competive fleet.
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