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Club South Pacific: Allowable WaS units in all games (WIP)

This is the list of all currently released WaS units by country that are allowed to be used in Club South Pacific builds per the Clubhouse guidelines. Please see the Club South Pacific HQ sticky for more information on build restrictions. Attached to each ship is a very brief history in-theatre of their most famous accomplishments. The vast majority of units in the Pacific fought multiple engagements and some were present for nearly every battle and fleet action.

Allowed:

Australia:
Cruisers:
HMAS Australia - Guarded home waters, ANZAC/TF44, Guadalcanal.
HMAS Sydney - ANZAC, sunk the Raider Kormoran.
HMAS Canberra - Sunk at Savo Island.
Destroyer Classes:
HMAS Nizam (J/K/N-Class) - Philippines as part of the BPF.
HMAS Arunta (Tribal Class) - Sank Ro-33 off of Port Moresby, part of TF74, and Suriago Strait.
HMS Swale (River-Class) - twelve were built in Australia for the RAN as Shore Defense.
Aircraft:
B-24D Liberator - Operated by the RAAF extensively.
PBY "Black Cat" - Operated by the RAAF from 43-45 against the Japanese.
Beaufighter - Served in theatre for the RAF, but more famously in the RAAF sinking 4 destroyers and 6 transports in the Bismarck Sea.
P-40E Warhawk - Defended Australia from Japanese attack throughout the war.

New Zealand:
HMNZS Leander - Battle of Kolombangara

Canada:
HMCS Uganda - Only served in the South Pacific as a Canadian ship, member of the BPF, Truk.
HMCS Algonquin - Served with the BPF in 1945.

United Kingdom:
Aircraft Carriers:
HMS Illustrious - Served with the BPF.
HMS Victorious - As "USS Robin" in the Pacific in 43, part of the BPF famously having 2 kamikaze's "bounce off the deck".
HMS Eagle - Escorted Australian convoys and was repaired in Singapore.
HMS Fencer - Served in the BPF.
Battleships:
HMS Nelson - Japanese at Malaysia surrendered to the British aboard her.
HMS Prince of Wales - Sunk as part of Force Z in Singapore.
HMS King George V - Flagship of the BPF.
HMS Repulse - Sunk as part of Force Z in Singapore.
Cruisers:
HMS Belfast - Member of the BPF.
HMS Kent - Hunted Graf Spee in the East Indies.
HMS Exeter - Member of ABDA, sunk at Java Sea.
HMS Euryalus - Served in the BPF.
Destroyer Classes:
HMS Cossack (Tribal-Class) - Three RN Tribal's served in the Pacific, helping sink the Haguro.
HMS Javelin (J/K/N-Class) - Served in the Pacific, including as members of ABDA.
HMS Saumarez (S/T-Class) - Served in the Pacific; the Sam herself helped torpedo the Haguro.
HMS Swale (River-Class) - twelve were built in Australia for the RAN as Shore Defense.
Others:
HMS Truculent (T-Class Submarine) - Truculent herself spent most of the war in the Pacific, sinking numerous Japanese shipping vessels.
Vospers MTB - Served with the BPF and RAN Coastal Defense.
Aircraft:
Sunderland Mk. I - First one was delivered to Singapore, served with the RAAF and RNZAF.
Beaufighter - Served in theatre for the RAF, but more famously in the RAAF sinking 4 destroyers and 6 transports in the Bismarck Sea.
Barracuda Mk. II - Served with the BPF, attacked Sumatra.
Swordfish Mk. I - Floatplanes on the Repulse, RAAF out of Perth, and RAF out of Singapore.
Swordfish Mk. II - Floatplanes on the Repulse, RAAF out of Perth, and RAF out of Singapore.
Martlet Mk. II - Served from land bases early in the Pacific war for the RAF.
Sea Hurricane Mk. IB - Were famously constructed from crates in time to defend Singapore and Java before retreating to Australia.

Netherlands:
De Ruyter - Flagship of the ABDA fleet for the Dutch, sunk at Java Sea.
Witte de With (Admiralen-Class) - Majority of the class served in Java and fought as part of ABDA.
Van Galen (J/K/N-Class) - Some of the class were present as ABDA members for the RN. Two of the class were transferred to the Dutch later in the war and served in both theatres.
Zvaardvisch (T-Class Submarine) - Only 2 T-Class were commissioned by the Dutch before the end of the war, Swordfish sank multiple Japanese vessels.
B-239 Buffalo - Only fighter cover available for the ABDA fleet.

Poland:
ORP Dragon - Served in Singapore and the East Indies as HMS Dragon.

United States:
Aircraft Carriers:
USS Lexington (CV2) - Sunk at Coral Sea.
USS Saratoga (CV3) - Admiral Fletcher's flagship, present at nearly every major battle of the Theatre.
USS Yorktown (CV5) - Heroically fought at the Battle of Coral Sea.
USS Enterprise (CV6) - Big E was the lynchpin of USN operations in Theatre throughout the war.
USS Wasp (CV7) - Lost at Guadalcanal.
USS Hornet (CV8) - Doolittle Raid, Guadalcanal, etc.
USS Essex (CV9) - 14 Battle Stars including Leyte.
USS Intrepid (CV11) - Battled at Leyte with her aircraft sinking the Musashi.
USS Princeton (CVL23) - Sunk at Leyte Gulf.
USS St. Lo (CVE63) - Sunk by first kamikaze attack at Leyte Gulf.
USS Robin (HMS Victorious) - Served with the USS Saratoga in the Pacific as part of TF36.3 in 1943.
Battleships:
USS Tennessee (BB43) - Leyte Gulf and sunk the Yamashiro in Suriago Strait.
USS California (BB44) - Also at Leyte Gulf and Suriago Strait.
USS West Virginia (BB48) - Crossed the Japanese "T" at Suriago Strait, decimating the enemy fleet.
USS North Carolina (BB55) - Most decorated US BB of the war, fought at the Solomons, Guadalcanal, and Leyte.
USS Washington (BB56) - Sank the Kirishima at Guadalcanal.
USS Massachusetts (BB59) - Fought at the Solomons and Leyte.
USS Iowa (BB61) - Fought at New Guinea and attempted to relieve the Taffey's at Leyte.
USS New Jersey (BB62) - Halsey's flagship in the South Pacific.
USS Missouri (BB63) - Based out of Leyte with TF38/58 for strikes out to Okinawa and Indo-China.
USS Montana (BB67) - Was designed to battle the Yamato-Class in the Pacific War (Conjectural).
Cruisers:
USS Salt Lake City (CA25) - Guadalcanal and sank the Tokyo Express ships at Cape Esperance.
USS Houston (CA30) - US Flagship of ABDA, Java Sea.
USS San Francisco (CA38) - Cape Esperance and Guadalcanal.
USS Baltimore (CA68) - Truk and Luzon invasions.
USS Quincy (CA71) - Part of TF38 based out of Leyte.
USS Phoenix (CL46) - Present at nearly every battle in the South Pacific.
USS Boise (CL47) - Cape Esperance, Leyte, and New Guinea.
USS Atlanta (CL51) - Fought at the Eastern Solomons, sunk at Guadalcanal.
USS San Diego (CL53) - Defended the Enterprise at Guadalcanal.
USS Cleveland (CL55) - Sunk two destroyers during the Battle of Blackett Strait.
USS Montpelier (CL57) - Guadalcanal, Truk, Leyte, and Empress Augusta Bay.
Destroyers:
USS Hoel, USS Kidd, USS Taylor, USS Fletcher (Fletcher-Class) - Whole class served nearly exclusively in the Pacific.
USS Allen M Sumner, USS Laffey (Allen M Sumner Class) - Leyte, etc.
USS Phelps (Porter-Class) - Coral Sea, etc
USS Bagley (Bagley-Class) - Guadalcanal, etc.
USS Edsall (Clemson-Class) - ABDA, etc.
USS Samuel B Roberts, USS John C Butler (John C Butler-Class) - Leyte, etc.
Submarines:
USS Archerfish (Balao-Class) - Served all over the South Pacific.
USS Barb (Gato-Class) - Served all over the South Pacific.
USS S-37 (S-Class) - Only US submarines in the Pacific at the start of the war, Philippines, ABDA, etc.
Others:
SS Jeremiah O'Brien - Liberty ships served all over the South Pacific.
SS American Victory - Victory ships served all over the South Pacific.
USS Gunston Hall (LSD5) - Guadalcanal, Leyte, etc.
LST - Designed specifically for the South Pacific "island-hopping" raids.
PT Boat - All over the Pacific including evacuating the Philippines.
Aircraft:
PBY Catalina - Every South Pacific battle.
PBY "Black Cat" - Designed just for the South Pacific.
B-24D Liberator - The standard bomber in the South Pacific.
B-25H Mitchell - Majority of the US's B-25's were in the Pacific.
V-156F Vindicator - Served onboard Lexington, Saratoga, and Wasp until late '42.
SBD Dauntless - Every early war Pacific battle.
SB2C Helldiver - Helped sink Musahsi at Suriago.
TBF Avenger - Nearly every mid-to-late war action.
TBF-1 Avenger - Nearly every mid-to-late war action.
TBD Devestator - Coral Sea
P-40E Warhawk - Java, Philippines, RAAF, etc, etc.
F4F Wildcat - The defacto US fighter in the Pacific.
F6F-3 Hellcat - The second version of the defacto US fighter.
F4U1-D Corsair - Served on nearly every carrier in the South Pacific in the late war period.
USMC F4U-1A Corsair - Henderson Field, Guadalcanal, Philippines, etc.

France:
Battleships:
Richelieu - Served with the BPF in Info-China in 1945.
Cruisers:
La Motte-Picquet - Decimated the Siam (Thai) fleet at Koh Chang.
Destroyers:
Le Terrible (Fantasque-Class) - Triomphant spent the war in the Pacific operating out of Sydney.
Others:
Casabianca (Redoubtable-Class Submarine) - Phenix served in French holdings in Indo-China.

Russia:
Gromkiy (Gnevy-Class Destroyer) - 12 in class served in the Russian Pacific Fleet.
S-13 (S-Class Submarine) - Over a dozen of this class were assembled in Vladivostok for the Pacific Fleet where they sunk enemy shipping.

Germany:
Atlantis - Many surface raiders prowled the Pacific, including the Kormoran.
U510 / U66 (Type IX-C U-Boat) - Many prowled the South Pacific as "Monsun Operations", including U-510 herself who sunk ships around Singapore and Malaysia.

Italy:
Ambra (Perla-Class Submarine) - Malachite was one of several Italian subs in the far east operating out of Tiensen and was sank in a duel with the Dutch.
Leonardo da Vinci (Marconi-Class Submarine) - Luigi Torelli was one of several Italian subs in the Far East and was re-commissioned by the Kriegsmarine as the UIT-25, and later became a Japanese sub (I-504) giving it the unique distinction of being the only ship to serve in all 3 Axis Navies.

Neutral:
Heavy Shore Battery - Based on Fort Drum, in the South Pacific.

Restricted:

Note that some nations are totally Restricted including Finland (except for the Buffalo as previously listed), Sweden, and Greece.

Canada:
HMCS Haida - No Canadian Tribals served in the Pacific.
HMCS Sackville - No Canadian Flower-Class Corvettes served in the Pacific.
HMCS St. Laurent - No Canadian River-Class served in the Pacific.

United Kingdom:
Aircraft Carriers:
HMS Ark Royal - Sunk in the North Atlantic.
HMS Glorious - Sunk in the Baltic.
Battleships:
HMS Rodney - Did not serve in the Pacific.
HMS Hood - Sunk by the Bismarck in the North Atlantic.
HMS Royal Oak - Sunk in harbor at Scapa Flow.
Cruisers:
HMS Jamaica - Did not join the BPF before the end of the war.
HMS Hawkins - Only served in the South Atlantic and Indian Oceans.
HMS Sheffield - Did not serve in the Pacific.
HMS Ajax - Only served off of South America.
Others:
HMS Halcyon - Class never made it to the Pacific.
Aircraft:
Halifax GR Mk. V - No Halifax squadrons are known to have fought in the Pacific.

Poland:
ORP Blyskawica - Served in the Baltic only.
ORP Orzel - Sunk in the Blatic.

United States:
USS Gudalcanal (CVE60) - Never served in the South Pacific.
USS Nevada (BB36) - Only served in the Central Pacific and Atlantic.
USS Arizona (BB39) - Sunk at Pearl Harbor.
USS Alaska (CB1) - Only served in the Central Pacific.
USS Richmond (CL9) - Only served in Alaska.

France:
Aircraft Carriers:
Bearn - Only transported aircraft from the US through the Atlantic.
Battleships:
Jean Bart - Spent the entire war moored in Casablanca.
Dunkerque - Only fought in the north, Atlantic, and Med.
Strasbourg - Scuttled at Toulon.
Provence - Did not serve in the Pacific in WWII.
Cruisers:
Algerie - Fought in the Med and Atlantic only.
Suffren - Sevred in the Indian Ocean, but unknown if she made it to Indo-China before the end of the war.
Gloire - Did not serve in Indo-China until post-war.
Destroyers:
Milan (Aigle-Class) - Only served in the Med and Atlantic.
Aircraft:
D.520 - No D.520's made it to the Pacific.
V-156F Vindicators - No French Vindicators served in the Pacific.

Russia:
All but the previously-listed Gromkiy and S-13.

Germany:
All but the previously-listed U510, U66, and Atlantis.

Italy:
All but the previously-listed Ambra and Leonardo da Vinci.

P71

MUCH easier!

Australia, New Zealand, and Canada so far.
P71

United Kingdom done.
P71

Poland, Greece, and Sweden done.
sublime828

Looks way better P71..........much easier to navigate Very Happy
P71

Thanks! It's *much* easier to make and maintain, too!
P71

Did France, Germany, and Italy. All that's left is the US, IJN, and Russia.
P71

Russia done.
P71

USN CV's and BB's done.
P71

US Cruisers done.
Bull Halsey

Looks great! Very Happy
Flakstruk

Aren't the le terrible and Milan different classes
P71

Flakstruk wrote:
Aren't the le terrible and Milan different classes


I dunno, that's what the wikipedia told me.
Flakstruk

Milan is Aigle class (1 of 6)

Le Terrible is Fantasque class (1 of 6)
P71

Alright, I'll have to take a look at Milan's class then. I know the ship I named was a Fantasque class.
sublime828

le terrible is a Fantasque class destroyer

Milan is a Aigle class destroyer

I think you confused the milan on wikipedia in the fantasque destroyer page with the "malin"

hope this helps
P71

sublime828 wrote:
le terrible is a Fantasque class destroyer

Milan is a Aigle class destroyer

I think you confused the milan on wikipedia in the fantasque destroyer page with the "malin"

hope this helps


You are correct! And further research shows no Aigle's. Thanks for the help!
P71

Updated all Surface Action units except the IJN and completed all US units.
Joe

I'll see what I can do about the IJN
Admiral Woodside

Joe wrote:
I'll see what I can do about the IJN


G'Day Joe and P71. I like your club fleet varieties.

And speaking of the IJN, I was noticing on the ClubSouthPacific HQ page that:

Quote:
IJN - You may use any Japanese unit, except for those on the following Restricted list: Agaki, Kaga, Soryu.


However, I can't quite figure out why these three CVs, which definitely fought in the South Pacific, should be excluded. All three participated in the attack on Darwin on 19 February 1942, and then in March participated in operations in the Netherlands East Indies, sinking many ships. Furthermore, Soryu and Akagi participated in the Indian Ocean Raid in April, 1942, but without Kaga due to damage she had received in February.

The Soryu and Kaga are my favorite Japanese carriers and really work well together in a torpedo bomber build. Plus, these two carriers are still available in print. It's too bad you don't allow them.

Regards,
Admiral Woodside
sublime828

Hello and welcome to the clubhouse Admiral Woodside Very Happy  Very Happy

I will try to answer your questions for you here.  When SoPac was formed, one of their unique traits for the IJN were to leave out the carriers that they lost at midway to represent the IJN after their significant carrier losses.  That is the main reason why those units are not available.

Also, if you take a look at the map below, it shows the scope of the Theater Clubs operations and the above units and actions that you mentioned fall within the range of Club Indian who does allow their use.  



hope this helps

sublime828
Admiral Woodside

sublime828 wrote:
Hello and welcome to the clubhouse Admiral Woodside Very Happy  Very Happy

I will try to answer your questions for you here.  When SoPac was formed, one of their unique traits for the IJN were to leave out the carriers that they lost at midway to represent the IJN after their significant carrier losses.  That is the main reason why those units are not available.

Also, if you take a look at the map below, it shows the scope of the Theater Clubs operations and the above units and actions that you mentioned fall within the range of Club Indian who does allow their use.

<snip>

hope this helps

sublime828


Thanks sublime828. But, the map does show an overlap region where both ClubSouthPacific and Club India could game in the area. Note the light blue line significantly overlaps the black line. So the carrier attacks from just north of Australia against Darwin and against the NEI theater are definitely in the ClubSouthPacific region. I only mentioned the further excursion of the IJN carrier strike forces into the Indian Ocean in order to imply that they had to go through the South Pacific to get there. Anyway, it seemed like a perfect fit for me, except for the omission of the three IJN CV in question. I really liked the variety of strong national sides I could play, all for the same club, all my favorites.

I looked over Club Indian. Not quite what I am looking for either. On the other hand, a national club is very confining.

Anyway, thanks for your response, mate. Smile

Cheers,
Admiral Woodside

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