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herky80

Club Pacific (Retired)

Club Pacific

Location: The Pacific Ocean. It is a tumultuous time and place... rival fleets battle for supremacy where sea power dictates victory between Japan and the United States?

About Us:

The Pacific Theatre of WWII featured the biggest and most intense fleet battles in modern history. Great air raids, battleship on battleship showdowns, epic last stands, fierce island landings, and more action then you could shake two sticks at are the features of this action-packed theatre.

Our philosophy is to encourage active participation in all club activities as well as any forumini happenings, including painting competitions, tournaments, challenges, and general participation. Above all, our member's must have the utmost in honor and sportsmanship in order to promote and grow our hobby of WWII Naval Battles.

Club Motto:

"Beaches, Babes, and Bombs"

Club Fleet Rules:

Our club represents the classic rivalry between the Imperial Japanese Navy and the United States Navy. You may play either nation in a theater club match but cannot mix units from other nations into your fleets- Japan only or USA only.

The Team Poseidon expansion deck First Strike are allowed in fleet builds, although it is best to confirm with your opponent.

US Fleets:
All US fleets can use any USN units with the exception of the following:

USS Ranger

The US can also use units from other nations that operated along side them in the Pacific Theater.  You may include 1 non-US unit per 50 points in your builds and 1 per 100 points of your build for capitol ships from other nations.

Leander
Australia
Nizam
Arunta
Vampire
Victorious (USS Robin)



Membership:

Club Pacific is now accepting applications for membership. To become a member of Club Pacific, simply post in this thread or send a Private Message to herky80. Once accepted, you will need to change your "My Theatre Club" section of your Profile to "ClubPacific", which will automatically display our Club Avatar below your personal Avatar on the left-hand side of the screen.

Club Roster:

herky80 - Club President
P71 - Club Co-Founder, Petty Officer (1 point)
TurboCoupeTurbo - Club Co-Founder, Undersecretary of the Navy, Seaman
Vergilius - Founding Member, Undersecretary of Operations, Seaman
Joe - Undersecretary of the IJN, Seaman
Big Red One - Founding Member, Seaman
Darth Malus - Founding Member, Seaman
PT-73 - Founding Member, Seaman
AdmiralStamos - Seaman
Intrepid - Seaman
Ruckdog05 - Seaman
jaybird - Seaman

Our Rankings:

New Members: Seaman
1pt: Petty Officer
5pts: Chief Petty Officer
10pts: Warrant Officer
15pts: Chief Warrant Officer
20pts: Ensign
25pts: Lieutenant Junior Grade
30pts: Lieutenant
35pts: Lieutenant Commander
40pts: Commander
45pts: Captain
50pts: Rear Admiral
75pts: Vice Admiral
100pts: Admiral

Now for the point system:
1 point for competing in a club match
1 point for participating in a painting competition
1 point for participating in a tournament
1 point for participating in any other Official Clubhouse activity
1 point for every 5 Club Match victories
5 points for winning a tournament or painting competition category
5 points for winning the most matches in the League season for Club SoPac

Additionally, points may be doled out by the Staff for special circumstances.

A medal & ribbon award system is currently a work in progress.


Links to Club SoPac images (copy the http address and use it in image tags to link the picture):

Banner: http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4827/sopacbanner.jpg

Signature: http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8595/sopacsig.jpg

Avatar: http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5278/sopacavatar.jpg
torpman

A few quick things. Kaga Akagi Hiryu and Soryu all were in the attack on Port Darwin. This clearly puts them in the South Pacific a theater the performed many operations in. As such they should be useable for you.
Also 2XORP Dragon should be useable in your ABDA fleets at all times as HMS Dragon and HMS Deane both were part of the Western Striking Force for ABDA. USS Bagley should not be useable but USS Edsall should be on the list.
sublime828

torpman wrote:
A few quick things. Kaga Akagi Hiryu and Soryu all were in the attack on Port Darwin. This clearly puts them in the South Pacific a theater the performed many operations in. As such they should be useable for you.


Those three carriers were originally restricted from the SoPac build options to represent the Japanese fleet after midway, it was one of the elements that set them apart from other clubs and made them more unique.  Thats why they aren't available. in SoPac Very Happy
herky80

Can someone please explain why Akagi, Kaga and Soryu are excluded from this club?
sublime828

See my post above yours
herky80

So its really club south pacific post midway. Are there other theater clubs that use the Japanese and thus we need uniqueness? Are there other clubs that limit by year?

It seems this theater club was nerfed to make it less competitive and I think it prevents its popularity. Those three carriers are very iconic and it is just a shame to leave them out. I am not sure how fun this club will be with half of kido butai missing.

I would much rather go something opposite, which is actually less competitive but probably more popular. Perhaps like Club Pacific 1942.

The arbitrary nature of what theater clubs can use and what they cannot use is difficult for me to understand. Take for example the Dutch sub being included in Club Frozen Seas- Zwaadvisch did not operate in the theater but it's class did... Does that mean the Soryu can be in Club  SoPac because its sister ship was in the area?

I honestly don't care what clubs decide to use. But a measurement stick for what is included and excluded should exist. Otherwise, how do we draw a line?
Flakstruk

Really, Sopac should just be Pac and be done with it.

Indian has access to the full kido butai why not SoPac too

Edit:
This is probably the wrong place for it but this is where the conversation is.

SoPac should have access to the full roster as it is the only pacific club.

Not having a go at you Herky but I think that SoPac needs to give up some of your roster, specifically the Italian and German units and the British fleet as that's core to club Indian. Gives us one us/jpn and one UK/jpn club that way.

Abda is another significant overlap

Or we can split CIO between SoPac and Med
sublime828

Flakstruk wrote:
Really, Sopac should just be Pac and be done with it.

Indian has access to the full kido butai why not SoPac too

Edit:
This is probably the wrong place for it but this is where the conversation is.

SoPac should have access to the full roster as it is the only pacific club.

Not having a go at you Herky but I think that SoPac needs to give up some of your roster, specifically the Italian and German units and the British fleet as that's core to club Indian. Gives us one us/jpn and one UK/jpn club that way.

Abda is another significant overlap

Or we can split CIO between SoPac and Med



I would be fine with a Club Pacific (with CP retaining the US and IJN fleets but not the ABDA, french, german etc...........leave that for Club Indian, so they have something different to offer members that isn't offered by both of your clubs...)  Food for thought, whats your opinions boys?
Flakstruk

I have no problem with SoPac keeping Anzac squadron and USS robin if we get Abda and the Italian/German units
herky80

OK, that sounds good. I am fine with dropping those units and nation specified above.

Do we want this club then to just be straight IJN and USN and call it Club Central Pacific?

Or just drop the Germans, Italians, etc. and add those three IJN carriers?
sublime828

herky80 wrote:
OK, that sounds good. I am fine with dropping those units and nation specified above.

Do we want this club then to just be straight IJN and USN and call it Club Central Pacific?

Or just drop the Germans, Italians, etc. and add those three IJN carriers?


My vote would be ijn/usn only...........let Club Indian pick up the minors, gemany, italy, etc and call it Club Pacific (since including all of the US/IJN stuff basically spans the entire pacific)
herky80

sublime828 wrote:
herky80 wrote:
OK, that sounds good. I am fine with dropping those units and nation specified above.

Do we want this club then to just be straight IJN and USN and call it Club Central Pacific?

Or just drop the Germans, Italians, etc. and add those three IJN carriers?


My vote would be ijn/usn only...........let Club Indian pick up the minors, gemany, italy, etc and call it Club Pacific (since including all of the US/IJN stuff basically spans the entire pacific)


That is fine by me. Keeps it simple and more finite group of units available. It was getting very confusing which units were from which nation available. Laughing
Flakstruk

Huzzah
sublime828

sup Herk, if you could get started with the "Club Pacific" restructure that would be awesome!  I'm going to make the announcement for the Theater Club Season here very soon and we need all of our theater clubs up and ready to rock
sublime828

sublime828 wrote:
sup Herk, if you could get started with the "Club Pacific" restructure that would be awesome!  I'm going to make the announcement for the Theater Club Season here very soon and we need all of our theater clubs up and ready to rock


You will need a new club banner/avatar along with some sort of reworked clubhouse HQ with an up to date fleet roster.  It shouldn't be to difficult to get done.  The current members of SoPac will be grandfathered into the reformed "Club Pacific"......let me know if you need any help.
Vergilius

Just stopping by, noticed the Theater leagues are about to kick off.
sublime828

Vergilius wrote:
Just stopping by, noticed the Theater leagues are about to kick off.


sure are.  we're pretty excited to see the clubs put the new units to good use Very Happy
herky80

sublime828 wrote:
sublime828 wrote:
sup Herk, if you could get started with the "Club Pacific" restructure that would be awesome!  I'm going to make the announcement for the Theater Club Season here very soon and we need all of our theater clubs up and ready to rock


You will need a new club banner/avatar along with some sort of reworked clubhouse HQ with an up to date fleet roster.  It shouldn't be to difficult to get done.  The current members of SoPac will be grandfathered into the reformed "Club Pacific"......let me know if you need any help.


I'm working on it. Slowly but surely. Smile

Should I edit the name in this thread or do a new one?
herky80

I am working on a banner but absolutely zero art skills in this department. Anyone care to lend a hand here? Smile
herky80



This one looks good. Phase one complete.
Solomiranthius

Nice!
sublime828

herky80 wrote:
sublime828 wrote:
sublime828 wrote:
sup Herk, if you could get started with the "Club Pacific" restructure that would be awesome!  I'm going to make the announcement for the Theater Club Season here very soon and we need all of our theater clubs up and ready to rock


You will need a new club banner/avatar along with some sort of reworked clubhouse HQ with an up to date fleet roster.  It shouldn't be to difficult to get done.  The current members of SoPac will be grandfathered into the reformed "Club Pacific"......let me know if you need any help.


I'm working on it. Slowly but surely. Smile

Should I edit the name in this thread or do a new one?


Already updated it Very Happy

You will still need to do a fleet roster for each nation.  Obviously all of the IJN stuff will be included (but still needs to be listed, preferably by unit type: carrier, bb, cruiser, etc.) and there are a few US units that will need to be unavailable for use (ranger would probably be the only one that I can think of unless you want to leave out Arizona for obvious reasons but its up to you)

That picture looks good for the banner and possibly the sig.  It would have to be certain demonsions  for each, im not sure.  Ask brigs if he could dress them up a bit, he is quite talented with the virtual paint brush.  Everything else looks good, nice job man!

sub
herky80

We'll get it done sooner or later. Smile

Are you really gonna make me list all the units for each side? It would be more effective to just list the units we can't use from the US- whatever didn't make it into the Pacific.

Arizona was in the Pacific so it needs to be included.
sublime828

herky80 wrote:
We'll get it done sooner or later. Smile

Are you really gonna make me list all the units for each side? It would be more effective to just list the units we can't use from the US- whatever didn't make it into the Pacific.

Arizona was in the Pacific so it needs to be included.


I suppose you don't have to list all of the available units, although it would be a way for members or potential members to see all the units available, especially since some of the newer players may not be aware of the units that were made available through the TP deck.  Again, it's up to you....
Vergilius

To what extent are the allowed units changing, and how much of the process is a unilateral decision from the top down?  From what I can tell in the first post, we've lost much of our distinctiveness that was present in Club So.Pac.

Edit:  found the discussion earlier in the thread:

Flakstruk wrote:
I have no problem with SoPac keeping Anzac squadron and USS robin if we get Abda and the Italian/German units


That's fine.  I like the simpler profile, but I think what captures the historical richness of the Pacific (and make no doubt about it, I am historically inclined and in a theater club, I want to play in a theater.  If I wanted nation pure, I'd decide to play those games with the nation-pure clubs) is the presence of some of the minors that fought there.  I am completely uninterested in participating in a club that misses some of the important flavor in the theater in which it was operating, so at least some Australians are warranted as several Australian ships were important in the Guadalcanal campaign and thereafter.  Since our Club IO seems ok with it, it sounds to me like we're good on this point.
herky80

What is a Club IO and who is it? Might be dumb question.

I am in favor of including the minors that were in the Pacific.
Vergilius

herky80 wrote:
What is a Club IO and who is it? Might be dumb question.

I am in favor of including the minors that were in the Pacific.


Club IO's headquarters can be found here:

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about28014.html

I could have sworn someone used that abbreviation earlier in the thread, and I just figured "Indian Ocean" was self-evident.
Flakstruk

I use CIO. I couldn't think of anything catchier

Edit. I was always for club pacific having the Anzac tf, Canadian units that served and UK units that served on the pacific side. But not the euro axis raiders and the bulk of the British eastern fleet/force z & Abda

Edit 2 - the ussr pacific fleet falls under CPs perview IMHO
Vergilius

Flakstruk wrote:
I use CIO. I couldn't think of anything catchier

Edit. I was always for club pacific having the Anzac tf, Canadian units that served and UK units that served on the pacific side. But not the euro axis raiders and the bulk of the British eastern fleet/force z & Abda

Edit 2 - the ussr pacific fleet falls under CPs perview IMHO


Those are all fine in my opinion.  I like the founder's historical zeal back in the day, but chances are good that most of our players would not have bothered to play those out anyway, and it was a bit completionist by limiting some of them to "convoy" scenario escorting.  Does anyone actually play a convoy scenario as a clubhouse competitive game?
herky80

I wondered if it was club indian ocean, but was thinking you were referring to a specific person. Moving on though...

So it looks like we need to basically go with this:

All Japan, no other Axis
All US minus Atlantic-only units
Allied Minor that served in Pacific

I'll take care of the first one Wink

Seriously though, I originally thought (like I did in my recent tourney game) that this would be easy. But now it seems like a daunting task to review all the US and allied minor units.
Flakstruk

I've posted requests but never had any takers. I think that the equalizer would be back to back matches, where players alternate roles with the without changing fleets
Vergilius

herky80 wrote:

All US minus Atlantic-only units
Allied Minor that served in Pacific

I'll take care of the first one Wink

Seriously though, I originally thought (like I did in my recent tourney game) that this would be easy. But now it seems like a daunting task to review all the US and allied minor units.


I'll look into it.  So.Pac had already gone a long way in this respect, and since we're just generic pacific now, we're broadening the list on some units that were initially restricted.  The real question will be going through the TP list.  Let me see what I can do right fast.

I've got my cards grouped with allied minors in with the US units, so let me run through the minors and TP USN units right fast.

Ranger---restricted---Atlantic
Independence---accepted---Pacific
South Dakota---Guadalcanal
Mississippi---transferred to the Pacific after Pearl, SA reflects Surigao Strait
Texas---end of the war, supported Allied landings at Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
Indianapolis---delivered atomic bomb in Pacific
Leander---active in the Pacific
Australia---active at Guadalcanal
Smith---Pacific
Nizam---operates the end of the war in the Pacific
Arunta---present at battle of Surigao strait
Gwin---Pacific
Vampire---convoy escort all over the place
Gudgeon---Pacific
A-29 Kittyhawk---Pacific
P38---All over, especially famous in Pacific
PBM-3 Mariner----All over

Canadian---these are harder due to a more significant Atlantic presence, so I typically store them with my UK cards.

Uganda----Operated in Pacific from 1944 onward
Algonquin---So far as I can tell, not Pacific
St. Laurent---Atlantic convoy escort
Haida---so far as I can tell, Atlantic
Sackville---Atlantic
Prince David---transferred to Pacific after Pearl Harbor.  

If it was on the restricted list prior to the So.Pa reorg, then we need to check it out.  Most of those will be fairly obvious, but some may have served entirely in the Atlantic.
sublime828

I think this is sort of defeating the purpose of what we were looking to do here in the first place....... by giving club pacific the big IJN/USN factor and letting CIO take the axis minors, british far east fleet, and some ijn it gives members two distinct and different clubs to choose from.  I understand that "Club Pacific" basically includes every British, US, IJN, and every other allied nation in the war and that is totally not what we are looking for.  If thats the case, then there needs to be about 10 different club pacifics just to keep things from getting ridiculous because if you include every unit that participated in the pacific, your just going to end up playing a single nation verses a club pacific version of team blue made up of every allied nations units.  Letting CIO focusing on the minors and drawing that crowd and letting Club Pacific focus on the majors and drawing that crowd was a perfectly acceptable line in the sand....

To draw an example of this, CFS whose theater covers waters north of the english channel could include dozens of USN units including washington, iowa, ranger, and wasp to name a few but we have refrained from adding these units to keep with the theme/focus of our club.......... the theater's we are representing don't have to include every single unit that participated in that theater but need to follow a focus or theme.  I'm fine with the historical relevance but there needs to be some checks and balances on the match level focus of these fleets.  All adding every available unit will do is create a clubhouse arms race....
Vergilius

We went over some of these issues when Club So.Pac formed.  If Sublime's arguments weren't good enough at the founding, then there's no reason why they should be considered good now.  And if it didn't create a club arm-race then, then there is no good reason to believe it will do so now.

As can be seen from the list above, we're not dealing with a large number of units.  And there seems to be a lot of flexibility and agreement between a couple of the relevant clubs under discussion.  That seems to represent a perfectly acceptable compromise between "every unit that participated in the Pacific for any nation" and "Only the USN/IJN."

One major purpose of a theater club is to capture the historical flavor of a theater in question, because hey, people have historical interests too.  Otherwise, they'd just play with the pure-nation clubs.  I joined So-Pa originally quite because of this extended feel.
firesdstny

herky80 wrote:

So it looks like we need to basically go with this:

All Japan, no other Axis
All US minus Atlantic-only units
Allied Minor that served in Pacific


I think this is a good list.  Adding Uganda/Prince David from Canada doesn't really add much, but the variety might be nice for some spice.

I agree with Flak, I think you guys should get USS Robin (Victorious) also.  It's a different carrier with a nice price range than what the US usually brings.

P.S.  Love the sig.  Nice find Herk.
sublime828

Vergilius wrote:


As can be seen from the list above, we're not dealing with a large number of units.  And there seems to be a lot of flexibility and agreement between a couple of the relevant clubs under discussion.  That seems to represent a perfectly acceptable compromise between "every unit that participated in the Pacific for any nation" and "Only the USN/IJN."

One major purpose of a theater club is to capture the historical flavor of a theater in question, because hey, people have historical interests too.  Otherwise, they'd just play with the pure-nation clubs.  I joined So-Pa originally quite because of this extended feel.


Sorry verg.... Embarassed   just overreacting a bit.  This is still a pretty sore area for me, even a year after all the hub hub....... your list looks good, and would also have to add use robin.  It took a bit but I see that you are making a list of units that operated directly with the us and I'm totally cool with that. There should also be some sort of inclusion formula for minor nation units in a us fleet (1 per 50 is the norm). Again, sorry for the fuss and carry on
Vergilius

sublime828 wrote:
There should also be some sort of inclusion formula for minor nation units in a us fleet (1 per 50 is the norm). Again, sorry for the fuss and carry on


The norm is fine.
Flakstruk

Sorry Herky, we've busted in and wrecked you place. Glad to see we have got this locked down
Bull Halsey

it looks fine with me. CA claims the USN Atlantic units while CFS gets the far north. its what divides us Very Happy
herky80

I am thinking that the upper left corner will have the title: Club Pacific in a style that is like a travel stamp to make it postcard looking. Or just something else. Smile

So, do we go with the multiple flags below style that is similar to what fighter pilots would paint on the side of their plane to mark kills, or do we go with the tattered flag style?



sublime828

The multiple flag Reference is awesome!  Really like the tie in with fighter pilot kills.
Vergilius

sublime828 wrote:
The multiple flag Reference is awesome!  Really like the tie in with fighter pilot kills.


+1
Jaybird

If it is not too late I would like to join.
sublime828

welcome aboard jaybird!
firesdstny

Jaybird wrote:
If it is not too late I would like to join.

Never too late.  Welcome to the theatre clubs!
Vergilius

Give me a few weeks and I'll try to pick up a game or two.  I've got a few irons in the fire on the forum, and a few irons in the fire in real life.
herky80

Club win vs sublime and the Club frozen tv dinner. Smile
herky80

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about35518.html

Club win vs brigman and club... Forzen seas? Or atlantic?
Flakstruk

Japanese Officials have today release information on a significant operation launched last week
imperial warships have dealt a heavy blow against the USN with carrier aircraft destroying 3 cruisers, 2 battleships and 2 carriers...

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/about35711.html&highlight=

Good game Herky - looking forward to our rematch
Vergilius

Going to do my part to get a few games in before the end.  We'll see if we get any takers.
Flakstruk

CIO Royal Navy Taskforce foraying into Japanese territory

200pts 1943 open to night or distance options
Vergilius

Flakstruk wrote:
CIO Royal Navy Taskforce foraying into Japanese territory

200pts 1943 open to night or distance options


I'll probably be up for this.  Let me look over the unit options on both sides to make sure there's nothing outright exploitable (probably be ok), and then we'll look at getting a game set-up.  This might take 2-4 days as I'm kinda busy getting a few other games started here, plus other forumini duties, plus trying to fit that around real life.
Vergilius

First club win reporting in.  Starting second game of match now.

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/sutra867233.php#867233

Winner: CP/KM Vergilius
Opp: CFS/UK Fires
Vergilius

Lost Game-2 in the same thread as above, same opponent, but on our home turf Sad   still, a good game all the way around.

http://aaminis.myfastforum.org/sutra867233.php#867233
Flakstruk

Challenge!

Club Indian Ocean, 100 points with a tier2 nation(minor force within a theater)
Flakstruk

Anyone playing over here?
Grudge

Respectfully requesting permission to come aboard.
Grudge

Anyone home?
Flakstruk

Go for it!
Pm herky to add you to the lost
Doberman

Curious if this club needs an admiral?

I don't see Her key flying a flag or banner in his profile, no real leaders or players as of now?

A member named grudge requested joining a few days ago.

Just curious if there is a SoPac/Pacific dispute or debate?

Any how, I'm interested in taking the lead and building a nice little club if no one else is claiming it?

Just need a little background and history on what all the talk was about restrictions, what's it and what's out?

If I took the reigns, I would revamp and possibly change the club name to "Ring of Fire"
Or CPTO PRO but ring of fire has a catchy name like "Frozen Seas"


Feedback is very helpful and appreciated.
firesdstny

It kinda looks that way Doberman!  Go for it if you want it.  Herky's got a nice banner ready.

Since the initial conception SoPac/CP has been a very hot/cold club to deal with.  They tend to pick up more of the flash players rather than those that grind it out due to the sexy nature of the IJN/USN battleground.  However, the format for the Theatre League that allows (encourages?) home and away battles did a lot to make Club Pacific acceptable to the masses.  When it was unlimited IJN or unlimited USN vs. everyone else it wasn't going to be much fun for everyone else.  Not overly theatrical in nature either.

The SoPac/Pacific dispute is old news now, there is nothing current as far as I know.   The talk and the history is meaningless so let's keep it that way - you can dig around and find some not so nice posts if you look for 'em.


As to the unit lists, it seems a couple of times things were started here, but never really got off the ground.  If you look at the HQ pages of CFS, CIO, Cmed, CA it lists out what units are allowed in different build types.  It also specifies in some cases which are not so there is no confusion.  

You have to decide where your boundaries for this club lie as there is some crossover to CIO and a bit to CFS (far north, Soviet Pacific fleet)

For simplicity's sake, it starts with USN/Aussie vs. IJN/Thai.  But there were British units in the Pacific as well (where WEREN'T there British units) and Canadian.  The ABDA and Anzac forces were there.  Even a small complement of Italian and German subs made it round the world.  You have to decide what the limits are.

As Sublime points out earlier in this thread, CFS could allow a few potent USN and French units to be part of our Blue TO&E, but does not because it would dilute the flavor of the club.  

As to whether a unit SHOULD be allowed, ND's guidelines require a bit of research, but nothing too daunting - some of this is already done and some is obvious.  Capital ships, named cruisers and Auxillaries must have actually operated somewhere somehow in theatre. If there is a question specific reference should be given.
DD and subs must have themselves been there or had a sister ship in theatre to count.  Planes must have flown in theatre.  

If it is a task you'd like to take on, just start building a new Front Page for the club outside of this sticky.  When it's ready Brigman, SWO, or I can turn it into the new and improved Club Pacific HQ.
Doberman

Thanks Fires.

I will have to weigh this out before I start any new games.

I pmd a couple player/members that aren't on any theater clubs yet. Looks like we have grudge and aytron so far. I pmd gman and squint to see if they'd like to make a run.

We have members on the list but I'd like to have a fee team mates first and forempst.
Doberman

Pending Herkys reply, I will step in this 2014 League Season to revamp the club.

Other than the established member list, we have playing under Club Pacific this year

Grudge
Ayrton12
Doberman

Still looking for a few new players to have some fun and show the big clubs how the big guns go off!
Flakstruk

Good on you for stepping up Doberman.


The limits as I remember them were pretty much all Japan and all of the USS pacific fleet (it's only a handful that are out)

As for the minors, the talk was a few Aussie and Canadian units and select UK units (HMS victorious for example) that served under us command.

ABDA and the Brit's pacific fleet was for CIO so we had 2 clubs with Japan, one us and one UK. But you get all the late war stuff
Doberman

Every 100 points of a minor gets 1 Capital IJN, RN or USN ship work?

Every 50 points for a minor, bring 1 IJN, RN or USN plane?

Should we then consider the French in Siam and British in Singapore as Minors?

I know a little history but you're right, would take a little digging.


Or is it easier to just do joint ventures?
Grudge

I'm in.
Flakstruk

I can help you, I've been over most things already for CIO.

I'd stick to IJN and USN and a few select ships. Off the top of my head.
Victorious, Uganda, Canberra, Australia, Arunta, Nizam,
You have the soviet pacific fleet, Gromiky, S-13, sturms, yaks ect
Basically the units that served as part of the USN rather than RN-Pacific.

You could include the Dutch if you really wanted.

CIO already has Siam and Indochinese French, and the Dutch. But we don't have a full British or Japanese roster either.
SeaAngel

Go for it dude!
Doberman

Awesome Flak! I guess I can copy, paste the class limits page and work on deleting non PTO games

Here is our starting roster

Grudge
Ayrton12
GMan
Doberman

I think most of us are limited to host any games as of now.
gman75

I'm in
Doberman

Will be updating and creating a new PACIFIC club thread this week.

Couple of NEWS AND NOTES...

1ST
Thank you to the new members for joining.  Wouldn't be fun without your participation.

2nd
Thanks to the other clubs for all the help, research, feedback and welcoming of our new Pacific formation.

3rd
Need Aytron12, Gman and Grudge to vote on
1. Keeping Club Pacific name
2. Change to Club Ring of Fire (symmetry with Club Frozen Seas)
3. Change to Club Pacific Ring of Fire ( a little more specific as if ROF wasnt?)

4th.
I'm looking to reward our new members for their 2013-2014 League participation.
Excluding myself of coarse, League rewards will be as follows.

Top performer (most games played) and Top Percentage (W-L) will each earn either a USN or IJN Capital. Battleships, Carriers and Flagships

Participation in any fashion will have a 1d6 roll for some USN and IJN goodies.
This includes any new members for the remainder of the season.

New members are always welcome for good Club fun and League Seasons.


Thanks again and Happy New Year!
Doberman
gman75

I say keep it Club Pacific.
Grudge

Aye, I vote Club Pacific.
Doberman

Close enough to. Majority for me!

Good call guys
Crimso

I would like to apply for membership? I referred by Doberman and am actively playing/collecting WaS with some friends here in Chicago trying to recreate historical engagements.
Doberman

Crimso wrote:
I would like to apply for membership? I referred by Doberman and am actively playing/collecting WaS with some friends here in Chicago trying to recreate historical engagements.


Welcome aboard Crimso!

Will be updating our Theatre Club, Holidays have kept me busy.

Go ahead and post a game request in the 1st thread in the clubhouse forum Match Requests

Be specific about which club you are in!

You can play in any Clubs waters with their fleets or in our home waters.

Plenty of action to go around.


Thanks again for joining.
Flakstruk

Your Dutch roster

-De Ruyter
-Tromp
-Java
-USS Houston
-HMS Exeter
-HMAS Perth
Destroyers
Not-Van Galen (1942)
-Witte de with
Aircraft
-B339 Buffalo
-Do 24K-1
Submarines
Not -Zwardfisch(1943)
-K.XVI.

That covers the ABDA campaign I think but doesn't have the BPF units.
Doberman

Thank you sir.

I hope your Indian Roster grows!

Perhaps we can have a mini season later this year to see who tops the Southern Hemisphere?

Kingdoms and Spice a Fortnight of Fights!
Admiral Woodside

Possible new avatar for Club Pacific in this post

G'day members of Club Pacific:

I have made an avatar for Club Pacific based on an early version of the Club South Pacific avatar from quite a while ago. I left the original curved font for the word Club in the top middle to make contact with club history, but put a flash new font for the word Pacific in the lower middle. Also, I added roundels (country ship pennants) for the eight nations currently listed in Club Pacific. To see the avatar just look to the left of this post in the name and avatar panel where I have temporarily uploaded it as my personal avatar. If you want to use it yourself, you can right click on the avatar and save it to a folder on your PC. Then use your member Profile to change/replace your personal avatar with this one until such time as a final decision is made on whether the club wants to use it.

If you feel like it, the various active members of the club, namely Doberman, Ayrton12, Gman75, Grudge, and Crimso could actually vote on it in a reply to this email, but in the Club Pacific 2.0 thread, which has now been stickied by firesdstny and therefore replaces it as the club thread. Just a thought.

BTW, in case you are wondering, I have not yet formally joined Club Pacific. I am still deciding between Club Indian Ocean and this one. It's a really hard choice.

Cheers from Australia.

Admiral Woodside
firesdstny

I stickied the new Pacific HQ for you guys.  Just let this one fall back into oblivion.
LcdrSwizzle

If you want this to fall into oblivion, you may want to "lock" it, so no one can do what I just did! Wink

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