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Shigure

200 Point Russian Thoughts

I'm going to be playing in a 200 point tourny a few days after the NA release and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the build I was considering. Expanded rules will be in effect. I play predominantly Russian armies and since, in this case, you get extra points if you field a single nation army I plan on doing so. I've seen what there is to offer in NA and i'm still seriously thinking about something along these lines.

3x T-70 platoons at 37 points a pop = 111
3x IL-10 = 63
2x Katyusha = 24
a few points left for obsticals

From the intel i've gathered from the group thats playing so far a swarm like this isn't expected and there isn't another like it in the works. Face it at 200 points most people are going to want to field something nastier then T-70s. Anyway the tanks swarm and the Katyusha's get in quick Rocket Salvos on any packed infantry while the IL10s take out loners and others.

Thoughts? Comments? Always looking for opinions.
Shank77

My only comment is on the Katyusha protect it well I have aways lost mine early in a game before I could realy use it.
Field Marshal J.A.I

Watch Out for  German Players who use heavy Tanks and possibly instead of adding obstucles try and get some infantry going in that build. tank
Duck Crusader

Shank77 wrote:
My only comment is on the Katyusha protect it well I have aways lost mine early in a game before I could realy use it.


Agreed, I'd go for a mortar/spotter combo and some footsloggers.
Sink the Bismark

Very interestng, but I would get some Infantry.
Cpt. John Miller

If you are playing unit limits(which you should) I would recommend bringing as many pieces as you can. The swarm tactics work great with the Soviets, and you can balance it with an IS-2 and T-34 Platoon which you have plenty of points for.
I recently played a 160 point battle against a Soviet build which was filled to the unit limit and I just didn't have enough shots each turn to stop the advancing mob from taking the objective.
Kastsyushas are crappy, replace them with infantry, trust me.
Shigure

As I recall there won't be unit limits in this game. My friend is running the tourny so I get the inside scoop and I don't believe there are limits though I will ask him again. The Katyushas are fragile I know but I know there will be at least one infantry swarm build there so i'm trying to allow for that in my build with the best area effect the Russians have to offer. I am sorely tempted, however, to ditch them in favor of an infantry platoon or two. I'll have to see what I can do.
Sharpe

The threat of the Katyusha is much worse than the effect.  Having one to threaten any infantry concentration is much more effective than actually using it.  Just pop it out and the infantry scatters like roaches under a hundred watt bulb.  Don't shoot it.  Just keep threatening his infantry and you'll disrupt his advance.  As soon as you shoot it, it's a joke.

Generally, I've found it to be very ineffective.  If the guy brings a plane, it's gone early.  If you don't mind mixing armies, a Calliope is much more effective than 2 Kats for a small increase in price.
Duck Crusader

Yeah, I just can't see a russian build with no Infantry working no matter how I try.
Gross Admiral Raeder

Yeah, you need commisars to kill Mosins so your sniper is really uber kool against  troops.
Duck Crusader

Where as my Imperial ones rock no matter what... pirate victory
3rdRTR

try...

KV-1 x1........................32
SU122 x3.......................66
T-70 Plt x3 (12 T-70s).....111

lots of fun it is...
3rdRTR

and a few more...

tank riders...
KV-1 x2...................................64
T34/76 x4................................112
PPSh x6 + grenadier x1 (plt).....17
Partisan x3...............................9
Hero of the Soviet Union x1........8

KV-1 x2....................................64
T-70 plt x2 (8 T-70s)..................74
SU-122 x2.................................44
PPSh x2....................................6
Partisan x2................................6
Hero of the Soviet Union x2.........16
Demotox

T70 swarm... Are you insane, and not in a good way. Those things have cardboard for armor... I don't think I could convince myself to run T70s except as filler or for historical scenerios.
Field Marshal PF

Cut out a T-70 platoon and add in 37 pts of infantry. You'll need infantry in 200pt engagements.
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