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The Hawker Typhoon was a powerful aircraft with a very unfortunate development history and a troublesome power plant. The Napier-Sabre was an unusual design and promised much but delivered much less than was expected.

Even in operational service a Typhoon pilot could not afford to idle on the runway as the type's spark plugs soon oiled up and caused misfires. The only remedy was to remove all the spark plugs and clean them and this was time-consuming work.

Early examples suffered from a carbon-monoxide leak into the cockpit which was the source of another one of 'Lucky Tuck's' escapes. Bob Stanford-Tuck was just walking to his already idling Typhoon when a telephone rang in the dispersal hut. Caught between his idling (and rapidly oiling-up) engine and the telephone call, his decision was made for him when another pilot offered to take the aircraft up on the test flight.

Tuck was still on the telephone talking when he heard a distant power dive and explosion. The Typhoon had crashed under full power. Part of the dead pilot's kidney was recovered from the wreck and this was found to be loaded with carbon-monoxide. Even later there was the suspicion of leakage so pilots were told to remain on oxygen during the entire flight... unusual for a British fighter.

In service there was also problems with the rudder and the rudder counterweight which also had to be fixed. There were also some tail failures, even late in its career.

The aircraft was fast and agile at lower altitudes (say up to 12,000 to 15,000 feet) but performance soon fell off above 20,000 feet. It was pressed into service on the English south and east coast to combat FW190 'tip and run' bombers who were swooping in at odd times and unloading bombs on various targets.

My own great uncle was killed in Eastern London (by gunfire) in 1943 when 16x FW190s flew across the Essex fields and attempted to bomb the huge Plessey electronics works at Ilford. They dropped their bombs too late, due to low altitude and ground haze, and hit everything else except Plessey. The FW 190s also opened fire on vehicles along the main road where I live today. Great uncle 'Jum' was riding to work on a bus which was hit by their gunfire. The RAF scrambled very late to this ultra-low level surprise attack and set off in pursuit. Despite claims that the RAF had shot down 'all' the FW 190s in fact only one was caught and shot down (by a Typhoon) and that was just off the Belgian coast! It was a long chase.

The Typhoon's thick wing was a limiting factor in speed and dive due to drag and was improved-on with the later Hawker Tempest. However the thick wing did allow it to carry greater weight and house 20mm Hispano cannons much easier than the lighter Spitfire did. Four x 20mm became the standard armament but two 500 pounders (one under each wing) or even two 1,000 pounders were carried in the fighter-bomber role (called a 'Bombphoon').

Its classic ground attack weapon was eight rockets in the tank buster role and this was the main weapon load carried over Normandy in 1944. Typhoon tank busters played hell with the German rear areas shooting up all manner of vehicles and contributed to the holocaust of the Falaise Pocket. They even feature in a famous war-time painting of the Falaise Pocket by artist Paul Nash.

http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib//162/media-162026/mid.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falaise_pocket

The rockets had a low hit rate against pinpoint targets like tanks (Wikipedia suggests only 4% direct hits against tanks) but the noise of the rockets had a serious effect on morale just as the Katyushas (Stalin's Organpipes) and Nebelwerfer 41/Sobbing Sisters had. One story is that a German tank unit bailed out and fled their tanks when they came under attack by rocket-firing 'Tiffies'. And even at 4%, that means if five Typhoons attack with 20 rockets you are guaranteed one hit and an awful lot of morale damage to the target unit!

As well as rear areas, the 'Tiffy' also had a battlefield role providing direct support to troops often threatened by Tigers or Panthers. My late father was in a slit trench on the rear slopes of Hill 112 near Caen when Tiger 1s came up the front slope. A radio operator in a neighbouring trench put in a call to the circling 'cab rank' for Typhoon support. There was a delay, and then some more delay, and when the Tiffies finally appeared they were firing their rockets directly over the British trenches into the faces of the on-coming Germans. The attack was broken up and my father overheard the next radio message: "Thank you for the close support... next time not so f****ing close!"

Below 20,000 feet the Typhoon could give the FW 190 a very good run for its money and the type DID score some air-to-air kills over Britain and Europe, chiefly bombers and transport types plus the occasional FW 190.

The Tiffy was rarely used in an anti-shipping role but it was responsible for the friendly fire incident which resulted in the sinking of British Halcyon Class minesweepers in enemy waters:
http://www.halcyon-class.co.uk/friendlyfire/friendly_fire.htm

The Tiffy did sterling service during the war but it was rapidly replaced after 1945. So rapidly that Britain failed to retain any surviving types for museums. So it was lucky that one Typhoon was sent to the Smithsonian in the US and was eventually swapped from something else:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/117906712/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/6462633569/

I always make a point of photographing the last survivor when I am at the RAF Museum.

EDIT: this Wiki page is excellent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Typhoon
I recommend it.
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I love this plane.  I used it twice and had great sucess.  I only have one so I am going to buy another.
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My favored british plane in WW2. And even my favored in AAAFM.
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Very Happy

Thanks a lot for those very detailed informations..

I saw some pics with a non-bubble canopy..

Does someone know at what period was the bubble canopy introduced to the TYPHOON ?  thinking

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OK FOUND :

AUGUST 1943 !
(wikipedia)

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My favored british plane in WW2. And even my favored in AAAFM.
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Hawker Typhoon from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iffnw_rbB1Q

Slow start but this is good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0q8s6EVeVQ


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