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Post subject: HHR AAM Cup - REGISTRATIONS HAVE STARTED
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News from the front
As the anniversary date of Liberation Day in Europe is coming, I would like to announce following event:
On 8th May, HHR Commemorative Cup will be put into life
- With use of up-to-date Set 1-6+Addons HHR Cards and Last version of HHR Rules:
Rules 2008 Version 4.0
(no advanced options like Hidden deployment will be used, sorry - maybe next year 
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Set 1 Cards
Set 2 Cards
Set 3 Cards
Set 4 Cards
Set 5 Cards
Set 6 Cards
Add-Ons
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Prizes
The best player will receive the bronze plate with name and title "HHR Commander 2008" and a model of SturmTiger (1:120) or Pz38t (1:100) [of his/her choice] together with HHR signed card.
You may consult until 8th May the rules and cards. Details of campaign rounds will follow soon. If any download error occurs, try tomorrow or contact me - I will send you the sets by e-mail.
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Would like to, but I suppose the tournament's in the US, right?
The nice thing about reading all these statcards- apart from the fact that overall they seem to do the units more justice!- is that there are still many future sets possible!
Keep up the good work! |
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:57 am |
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| boersma8 wrote: | Would like to, but I suppose the tournament's in the US, right?
The nice thing about reading all these statcards- apart from the fact that overall they seem to do the units more justice!- is that there are still many future sets possible!
Keep up the good work! |
The tournament is in the forumini. It's an online tournament.
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:04 pm |
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I'm interedted if I have time to figure out the units and play. Put me down as "probable".
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:09 pm |
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| boersma8 wrote: | Would like to, but I suppose the tournament's in the US, right?
The nice thing about reading all these statcards- apart from the fact that overall they seem to do the units more justice!- is that there are still many future sets possible! |
It's on-line tournament, and I am organising it from Czech Rep. (in Europe, it's the continent on the other side of Atlantic  )
IMPORTANT
- the cards are developped already for 2 years (cca), but there is still a lot of work to do. So, no North Africa units will NOT be included (as their cards are not yet tested). Anyway, Sets 1-6 + Addons are a lot of cards to deal with.
Also, some difficulties with rules and cards may occur, but they will remain unchanged during the tournament. So take the game easy, it's not a Davis Cup 
 The rounds will generally correspond to the war years.
You will act on both Allies / Axis sides. In each stage, you will fight two battles on different battlefields and your total points will decide the victory.
Using captured units (from enemy side, where indicated) is possible, but penalised by 25% extra price (rounded up)
At random, you will be elected to fight in different theatres; in each, you can field only the units available for that year and nationality (but we will ignore some historical contexts as real presence of that unit for the battlefield). If you want to use some unit against its regionality (MED, PAC, CBI, WER, RUS) written on the cards, please consult it with me. I am not a genius and some might appear elsewhere than cited.
 Some national battlefields will be more difficult for Allies or Axis side. Take it as a challenge
 First round 1939-1940: Russia/Japan 1939; China/Japan 1939; Germany/Poland 1939; France/Germany 1940; France/Italy 1940; British/Italian East Africa 1940; Finland/Russia 1940 (you may also propose another battlefield before 8th May).
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The registration starts 8th MAY 2008; until then you will have up-to-date Cards and Rules. When first 16 players will sign-in, the game will be closed.
 Option to discuss: player may choose one "officer" - an assistant in case he will not be able to participate for a longer period of time.
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:11 pm |
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I voted no - but thats because you use HHR - I don't like to have to memorize 2 differnet Sets of units...
AAm is good enough
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:40 pm |
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Victory conditions
An objective(or majority of objectives) held by single player with an undisrupted unit at the end of the 7th turn (decide the result in the "D-D-D" evaluation phase).
If there is no clear winner at that moment, continue until end of 10th turn. Then, if both players (or no one) holds the objective, the winner is the player with bigger army on the field.
Victory points are awarded according to the following scheme:
- Looser gets 0 points, even if he has more units than the winner.
- Winner gets 1 point at minimum.
- Otherwise the positive difference of field army value is the ammount of points gained.
As you see, Winner gets 1+ points, Looser always receives 0. Therefore once you loose you can still act better in second battle.
* In second battle, you will randomly choose a different battlefield and you switch the side (Axis-Ally). As you see, for a HHR commander, there is no place for powergamers or nationalists. You must be quick in decision which unit from a previously unknown set is better - from both sides.
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:34 pm |
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| Richter von Manthofen wrote: | I voted no - but thats because you use HHR - I don't like to have to memorize 2 differnet Sets of units...
AAm is good enough |
If you see the Sturmtiger mobel that Sindor is talking about, you'll change your mind 
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:58 pm |
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Main prizes (will be sent in original package, unassembled):
1:120 (old scale)
or 1:100 (new scale)
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:00 pm |
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you can pretty much get me in anything if a prize is offered in 1:120 scale.
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| Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:25 pm |
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There will be last updates on HHR cards this weekend, than I will postpone the updates until the end of tournament.
List of units to be updated:
KV-1
Humber
6-pounder
ability Limited AdHoc AA / AdHoc AA
Bazooka, Panzerfaust
Fucille Modelo
M3 Lee
T-26
Piat Gunner
M24 Chafee
Panzergrenadier
SNLF Cpt + SNLF Para
Add Romanian rifleman
AT Grenadier
Rocket salvo ability (...no fire afterwards)
M36GC Flanking Attack 2
Pz IV D
Pzschreck
Zero
Guards Infantry
Add Vichy infantry (Free French convert)
M5 Halftrack (7), Sdkfz 251 (7); Sdkfz 250 (6), Universal Carrier (4)
Japanese AT fanatics
BT-7, BA-10
Gloster Meteor Def 5/5
Panzerjager Bren
sdKfz 303
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| Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:16 am |
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| NeuralDream wrote: | | Richter von Manthofen wrote: | I voted no - but thats because you use HHR - I don't like to have to memorize 2 differnet Sets of units...
AAm is good enough |
If you see the Sturmtiger mobel that Sindor is talking about, you'll change your mind |
That one is tempting and my online score is quite impressive - still haven't fought Capt. Miller (still interested?)
But I have won once against Polish - a great game Marines against Japanese (his own little ruleset) - too bad he had brought the Ho-Ni instead of the Chi-Ha
But bno - i am occupied with my own campaign atm and I really don't like HHR - to many changes for so little gain
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| Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:58 am |
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We have an old Japanese saying
Buying Ho-NI like chosing to carry an umbrella or not. Often one wishes he had done the opposite. Many times you end up soaked. Or reverse... you carry around something looking foolish which has no purpose... no use.
I would compose Haiku but I am too drunk on plum wine and saki.
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| Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:41 pm |
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But bno - i am occupied with my own campaign atm and I really don't like HHR - to many changes for so little gain |
Yes, there is a lot of changes ... It is not an easy job to create a better strategy out of an arcade game But I do not wish to force anyone to participate. HHR is a sort of living-history reneactment, we wish to make scenarios and units feel like the originals (even if it is not always possible to match complex technical parameters into 6 numbers, 2 def values, 1 speed limit and several abilities).
HHR is specific by continuous development. So, it is rather for historic and game fans than for naturally born poker players wishing to build the best combos and win tournaments.
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| Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:20 pm |
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| Polish_Cavalryman wrote: | We have an old Japanese saying
Buying Ho-NI like chosing to carry an umbrella or not. Often one wishes he had done the opposite. Many times you end up soaked. Or reverse... you carry around something looking foolish which has no purpose... no use. |
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Now everything is ready for the tournament.
Even if only 2 players will sign-in I will organise it - the better chance for them to grab the main prize 
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| Fri May 02, 2008 7:50 am |
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As for the unit representatives, you may find most of the units from Set 6 and Addons here:
http://www.juniorgeneral.org/ww2.htm
(both top-down or side views are available).
You may also use these, designed by Black Knight Group specially for on-line gaming :
http://nofar.wz.cz/aa/set6/6_01.png
(just change the last two digits in URL to download an image corresponding to the unit from Set 6)
Sample:
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| Fri May 02, 2008 10:57 am |
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If you guys could market the HHR cards, I would buy them, that is, if I could get them in the same quality as the original ones.
Though I just LOVE the idea behind HHR nad feel that is much closer to what AAM should have been than how it actually is now, I think going with the original cards and changing the worst offenders only goes far enough for me ( Katyusha, US mortar, headshot). Admittedly, the expanded rules and cost changes have also contributed a lot to the betterment of the game! |
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| Sun May 04, 2008 10:54 am |
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I really hope WoTC will release that Sturmtiger one day. I know it was rare, butI'm sure more of those saw action during WW 2 than IS 3's did....  |
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