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Post subject: FIN/RUS Winter War 1940 (6&4-6)
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Here you can find map and battle details:
Armies
50 pts, 1 rare, deployment zone 2 hexes from the shorter side of the map.
 Errata: Finnish may use Maxim HMG & 82mm mortar as their national units (as they were in the finnish army roster already at the dawn of the winter war on 30th November 1939). Russians may use Fanatical Sniper.
Tips for beginners
- SOVIET UNION: You have tanks, enemy don't. But beware: the marshes are dangerous for vehicles and heavily forested area is very hard to get through ...
- FINNLAND: You have a very difficult task: with few national units from Set 6, you have to find some other war material - try german Pak36, Maxim HMG, 82mm mortar or even Polikarpov I-16 (remember +2 pts/ +25% price penalty for using enemy unit)
Map: Frozen marshes
* Use classic skirmish battle (objective = center).
Special: Marshes and rivers are frozen: Infantry may cross the river without penalty. When a vehicle attempt to cross a marsh or river, it is immobilized in the ice on the roll of 4+. Roll only one when entering the hex.
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if I understand correctly I am USSR and we are playing on this map.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 2:54 pm |
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да, товарищ кавалерист 
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| Wed May 14, 2008 3:15 pm |
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I see the USSR machine gun can be pulled by a team of horses. Do we have a team of horses?
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| Wed May 14, 2008 6:28 pm |
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"deployment zone 2 hexes from the shorter side of the map"
is that top-bottom or left-right sides of the map?
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| Wed May 14, 2008 6:30 pm |
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| Polish_Cavalryman wrote: | | "deployment zone 2 hexes from the shorter side of the map" Is that top-bottom or left-right sides of the map? |
Which one do you see as a shorter one? Top-bottom.
The team of horses is sadly in campaign MiniSet together with gun tractors and mules and other things, but I did not want to overcomplicate your beginnings  (consider horses as temporarily eaten by hungry Russians)
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| Sindor wrote: | | (consider horses as temporarily eaten by hungry Russians) |
Do they regrow at night from the bones like Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjostr?
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| Wed May 14, 2008 7:11 pm |
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top-bottom makes more sense. I actually thought shorter one was left-right... ie shorter distance to the objective.
OK. So we set up on the top or on the bottom.
Soviets have no horses... no spotter... no tanks above 3 rear defense and the fight is in horrible tank country. hmm... it sounds like the Fins are not so overmatched at all. The Soviets have few advantages to use.
That 5 defense Finish soldier costing 3 points. Whew! That is one tough piece.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 7:26 pm |
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| Polish_Cavalryman wrote: | Soviets have no horses... no spotter... no tanks above 3 rear defense and the fight is in horrible tank country. hmm... it sounds like the Fins are not so overmatched at all. The Soviets have few advantages to use.
That 5 defense Finish soldier costing 3 points. Whew! That is one tough piece. |
I meant shorter side in term of hexes ...
OOps. Sorry. There is clearly a bug in pricing. We have played only once for the Finns - 16x 5/5 infantry in forests on this map is a killing combo. Would your opponent accept Ski Squad for 4 pts?
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| Wed May 14, 2008 7:38 pm |
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no... the card says 3. He can have them for 3 points.
I'll have to find a way to deal with a lot of 5 defense soldiers.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 8:06 pm |
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That's a spirit  Hats down. Now where is your opponent?
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| Wed May 14, 2008 8:12 pm |
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| Polish_Cavalryman wrote: | Soviets have no horses... no spotter... no tanks above 3 rear defense and the fight is in horrible tank country. hmm... it sounds like the Fins are not so overmatched at all. The Soviets have few advantages to use.
That 5 defense Finish soldier costing 3 points. Whew! That is one tough piece. |
woops. I assumed 1939. It is 1940 and that does change things. The USSR has some nasty vehicles by then from the KV series.
my mistake.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 8:56 pm |
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Does KV-2 entered in your thoughts? Yes, a juggernaught for 40 pts ... but to get this piece of metal on the objective might be difficult
I forgot to ban heavy russian tanks as in RUS/POL map, this makes it very interesting how finish units will handle them
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| Wed May 14, 2008 9:04 pm |
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... when I go through finnish units I find KV2 unbeatable by them (6 out of 6 rolls necessary to disrupt it). I advise to follow the history and omit this unit from the army roster for the moment (as there were no KV2 in the winter war).
This one even Germans feared and one had stopped their division for 2 days until running out of ammo 
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| Wed May 14, 2008 9:14 pm |
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Sindor could you please post my possible units here, Oh Polish Cavalryman please don't be cruel.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Possible units:
National:
. Ski Squad
. Suomi SMG
. 37mm AT Bofors
Bought from Allies:
+ Maxim HMG
+ 82mm mortar
+ 40 mm Bofors
+ Pak36 AT Gun
Captured:
- BA10
- BT7
- T26
- Polikarpov I-16
Mea culpa. There should be the same statement written as in RUS/POL map: "No russian heavy tanks"; because there is no edit option, I cannot update it. There were only T-28 medium tanks in that war, as KV's were still in the development phase (KV-2 introduced in mid-1940)
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| Wed May 14, 2008 9:43 pm |
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oh i can't download the cards could you post please
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| Wed May 14, 2008 10:22 pm |
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| RAEVSKI wrote: | | oh i can't download the cards could you post please |
that is not very easy to do so he probably will not. I could create PDF copies for you if you have no other way to get them.
you can't open them or you can't even download them?
To open you need some kind of common picture viewer. To not be able to download? Well unless the site is blocked by your software I'm not sure why you can't download.
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| Thu May 15, 2008 1:47 pm |
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| RAEVSKI wrote: | | Cavalryman please don't be cruel. |
hey now... you got to pick the fight and you got to pick the sides and you have 5 defense soldiers for 3 points... I'm not going to further restrict my options.
so I may use a 1940 KV tank. OK... I won't use the one with 6 rear defense as Sindor indicates they were not present in this fight... so I just contradicted myself. I will restrict myself to not using that one. The other two have 7/5 defense. Those would be tough nuts to crack. But they would also be almost my entire army and would have a horrible time getting to the objective.
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| Thu May 15, 2008 1:50 pm |
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| Sindor wrote: | | Mea culpa. There should be the same statement written as in RUS/POL map: "No russian heavy tanks"; because there is no edit option, I cannot update it. There were only T-28 medium tanks in that war, as KV's were still in the development phase (KV-2 introduced in mid-1940) |
ooops... now I just saw this.
so I guess I can't use KV-1, KV-2, or KV-8.
hmmm....
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