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Post subject: Caio Duilio - Scratch build (how to advice)
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I've been planning on doing this ship for quite some time now and finally managed to extricate my thumb 
The Roma is for scale and detail reference. Obviously I'll not make the Duilio as detailed, that's just nuts
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_0006.jpg
Laying out the basic pieces of the hull and some barbettes.
You can see that I've printed out the blueprints to scale and stuck a cutout to the styrene sheets with a gluestick. This makes it real easy when sanding and filing the pieces down to shape.
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_0008.jpg
Here the pieces of the hull are in place and more barbettes have been added together with smokestacks.
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_0009.jpg
Again the pieces of the hull, now roughly cut down to shape with a scalpel. I run the scalpel lightly just outside of the line a few times and then I gradually apply more pressure until I break through or I have weakened the piece enough so that I can break it off.
For you guys who moved over from the old AH forum will recognise my methodology from the Aquila build. I have revised some steps based on experiences from that build.
Hopefully the Duilio will end up half as good looking as the Roma. But that's for another day (month) 
Cheers!
/Clint
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Nice!
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Post subject: Holy Scratch build Batman!
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WOW!     !!!! You've got more talent in one lugnut than what most race cars have in their whole body... Oh crap! I'm quoting the Bloody movie "Cars" again! Anny hoo, I can't wait and see how it looks completed! Is that balsa sheet yer using for the hull pieces?
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Post subject: Re: Holy Scratch build Batman!
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| cealigh wrote: | | WOW! !!!! You've got more talent in one lugnut than what most race cars have in their whole body... Oh crap! I'm quoting the Bloody movie "Cars" again! Anny hoo, I can't wait and see how it looks completed! Is that balsa sheet yer using for the hull pieces? |
Ta mate!
That's polystyrene sheets, the type you find at a model shop. Evergreen I think it was.
BTW: Did you see the new sig?
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Very cool that! Nice job.
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i would have never thought to do my turrets like that! Sweet! Keep the pics coming!
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| drittal wrote: | | i would have never thought to do my turrets like that! Sweet! Keep the pics coming! |
The beauty of ignorance is that you are free to improvise ;D
Thanks man! More pics soon(ish) I'll be gone most of next week to Sweden Rock so... 
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nice work very good really... will remember your tech for getting the decks right nextime...
also the gun battery approch seems pretty nice i hate makeing that many peices that are ment to be identical with sculpting... but it looks like you are gonna get it done pretty well.
looking forward to more pics...
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| I like it. Well done |
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Cool man. Funny how some of us have drastically different approaches to things. I do my turrets very differently, and I almost posted a pic recently...have to now. You'll get a kick out of it, I think. Working on the Barnham currently, so it shouldn't be too long.
Gotta say, it's nice seeing all the fleets growing. Looking forward to seeing both the finished turrets and the complete vessel. Maybe someday they'll all do battle at a convention or something.  
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Post subject: Re: Holy Scratch build Batman!
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| Cmdr_Clint wrote: | | cealigh wrote: | | WOW! !!!! You've got more talent in one lugnut than what most race cars have in their whole body... Oh crap! I'm quoting the Bloody movie "Cars" again! Anny hoo, I can't wait and see how it looks completed! Is that balsa sheet yer using for the hull pieces? |
Ta mate!
That's polystyrene sheets, the type you find at a model shop. Evergreen I think it was.
BTW: Did you see the new sig? |
Aye lad, and thanks! Been havin some puter problems of late.. I think I finally got it fixed... Haven't had a chance to update the sig yet.
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@Celt:
I'm very interested to know what method you chose I've done the secondaries too with the same method, and works well for me. Pretty simple and consistent!
I'd love to see all these cool minis in real life, maybe sink a few of them ;D
@hgraves:
Thanks man!
More pics coming pronto! I find that this method actually is well suited for mass production.
@motobear:
Cheers!
UPDATE:
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_1598.jpg
Here you can see the main batteries shaved down to shape and mounted. The green stuff was nice and compliant to work with. I'll add rangefinders and extras in the final detailing stage.
In the foreground are the barrels and base plates for the secondaries.
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_1600.jpg
A secondary turret in the first stage of assembly, the base plate has been glued to the barrels. After the glue has set I cut the barrels off with a scalpel. Hey presto! Nice, even barrels. I used styrene for the barrels for the secondaries because I thought it would be easier to work with, and it did work out pretty well.
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_1601.jpg
The secondaries after the first stage of assembly and a test assembly of a 10 cm DP gun for the AA-battery. It shows a bit of promise. It's just a bit of hollow styrene rod where the hole is slightly larger than the styren rod I inserted which gives the proper angle for the barrel.
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_1602.jpg
Same thing only now with the green stuff globs added.
For the DP guns I taped together five hollow rods and sawed off ten pieces. Now I'll at least have pieces of equal size for all the guns on one side
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 Cmdr you are the dremel king no doubt! Super nice wip. I can hardly wait to see her finished! You truely inspire those of us who only dream of even giving something like this a go. Keep those pics comin lad.
And thanks again for doin up my sig fer me too. Very nice job!
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Your ship (and technique) is advancing quickly! I really appreciate the 'step-by-step' photos. It is a lot of fun, and very educational, to watch you do it. Taking the photos is an exercise in patience all by itself. Many thanks.
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@cealigh
More pics will follow soon! And thanks for the motivating!
@weedsrock2
You are most welcome! Thanks for watching
The photobit is just fun, I luvs my camera(s) XD I might be persuaded to do a mini tutorial on shooting minis as well...
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It's nice to hear that I've reached even the landlubbers
Mini Update:
http://dev.pardalis.se/waratsea/caioduilio/img_1603.jpg
The secondaries mounted and barbettes for the DP-guns added.
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Lookin good mate! I like your method of turret and barbette mountings, using hollow plastic tubing makes sense. I bet if you wanted to you could actually have the turrets rotate by mounting a rod pin in the bottom and drilling out a hole for it in the ship base. It would be a bit o' work but could be worth it in the end when she is finished.
Hey WOC! You need to seriously recruit this lad for your sculpting dept for WAS!!! Him GOT TALENT!!!
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| cealigh wrote: | Lookin good mate! I like your method of turret and barbette mountings, using hollow plastic tubing makes sense. I bet if you wanted to you could actually have the turrets rotate by mounting a rod pin in the bottom and drilling out a hole for it in the ship base. It would be a bit o' work but could be worth it in the end when she is finished.
Hey WOC! You need to seriously recruit this lad for your sculpting dept for WAS!!! Him GOT TALENT!!! |
Ta Mate!
Rotating turrets would have been awesome, but I need to focus on making it a workable playing piece as well. It's a bit distracting if the turrets fall off
I might try it on a later mini though, just to see if nothing else
Hmmm... Making minis for a living ey? Better be careful what I wish for
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